Self-love and Self-care for introverted female entrepreneurs

Have you ever felt anxious or that something wasn’t right?

For many people, in general, and more so for entrepreneurs, anxiety and imposter syndrome are a real part of life.

In this episode, I talk with Tara Hayes about how she started addressing her own anxiety issues and ended up becoming a multi-published author helping other women in their quest to find solace and happiness while dealing with their own anxiety concerns.

About my guest: Tara Hayes is a 2x Self-published author of “Irrational to Rational” and “Panic to Picnic”, a self-diagnosed anxiety advocate, Tara Hayes loves helping others who can relate to her anxiety experience. Tara hosts monthly live journaling sessions on Zoom focused on working with introverted female entrepreneurs and has successfully inspired at least two independent business owners’ own their Journeys in Self-Publishing. Through her self-publishing workshops online, Tara is hopeful that her story encourages and uplifts others.

Connect with Tara on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, Alignable, and on the web at https://panictopicnic.com/

Transcript (auto-generated; may contain errors):

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Jennifer Glass: Hello, and welcome to another episode of MOJO: The Meaning of Life and Business.

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Jennifer Glass: for a lot of people.

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Jennifer Glass: We think self love Self-

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Jennifer Glass: is something.

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Jennifer Glass: When we have time we’ll focus on it.

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Jennifer Glass: Many entrepreneurs focus on getting things done instead of actually focused on. What do we really need to be paying attention to the problem that many people have is that if we allow ourselves to get bogged down by everything else.

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Jennifer Glass: whatever piece of self care that we may have needed to be taken care of quickly ends up turning into a mountain instead of a molehill. One of the things, if you’ve been following me long enough, You know. I say.

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Jennifer Glass: deal with things as they come up sometimes, instead of letting it build up into a mountain.

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Jennifer Glass: In other words, if you have to call the cable company, don’t put it off for 4 weeks, because by then, if you didn’t cover your bill, they’re going to turn off your service. There’s a lot of different things that can be coming up

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Jennifer Glass: that can really be making that problem. Same goes for doctors appointments.

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Jennifer Glass: Don’t put off screening simply because we don’t have time, and it’s only available during the day. We need to be focused on what we’re doing and where we go from here. And so I have a really great guest on the show today. Who’s going to help us really understand more about self, love, self, care.

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Jennifer Glass: and why it is so important for us to be focused on what it is that we need to be doing

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Jennifer Glass: before I bring her on, though let me tell you a little bit about her

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Jennifer Glass: as a two-time self-published author of Irrational to Rational and Panic to Picnic

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Jennifer Glass: a self-diagnosed anxiety advocate Tara Hayes loves helping others who can relate to her anxiety, experience.

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Jennifer Glass: She hosts monthly, live journaling sessions on zoom focused on working with introverted female entrepreneurs, and has successfully inspired at least 2 independent business owners

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Jennifer Glass: own their journeys and self-publishing

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Jennifer Glass: through her self-publishing workshops online, Tara is hopeful that her story encourages and uplifts others.

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Jennifer Glass: Tara, welcome to the show.

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Tara Hayes: Thank you, Jennifer. Thank you for inviting me.

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Jennifer Glass: So, Tara, let me ask you, as we look at self, love.

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Jennifer Glass: I gave a couple of quick ideas in the introduction. But why is it really

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Jennifer Glass: extra important

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Jennifer Glass: and more specifically to female entrepreneurs to be paying attention to self, love and self care. instead of doing whatever else we it is that we might be doing

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Tara Hayes: right. So I say that it’s very important, because when you have self love, you’ll have more self esteem, and based on my experience. I didn’t have any self love like as a kid. So and I think that’s a part of why

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Tara Hayes: I i’ve had anxiety. So I think most people don’t realize that self love and low self-esteem can go hand in hand, and also anxiety as well. So when you are an entrepreneur, especially if you’re introverted.

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Tara Hayes: One. Things you need to develop is your confidence in your self esteem. So that’s where self love comes into play. You build yourself up via affirmations. You let yourself know I am capable. I am strong enough t0 0n this journey, because

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Tara Hayes: the journey of entrepreneurship is not a easy journey. So if you’re not loving yourself and taking yourself and taking care of yourself while you’re on the journey, you’re gonna be quick to burn out. You’re gonna be quick to give up like I’ve been on my journey since December 2,019,

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Tara Hayes: and that’s where my author journey started, and I realized that not only self level is important, but mindset. So it all tied to it all ties together, self, love, self, care, mindset, and it all starts with you like you can’t accomplish anything without taking care of yourself first.

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Tara Hayes: So that’s why I say that it’s very important to to include self, love, self care on your entrepreneurial journey, not only entrepreneur, but just anywhere in life, because if you don’t take care of yourself, you won’t be able to take care of anything Really.

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Jennifer Glass: let me ask you. You mentioned December 2019, as when you started your journey and went from there. So what was the

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Jennifer Glass: genesis of that story.

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Tara Hayes: the genesis of that story. Well, I was in a place where I didn’t know who I was or what I wanted to do with myself at that point. Well, i’ll back up a little further. I was in the field of accounting.

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Tara Hayes: I went to school for account. I got my bachelor’s degree in accounting, and then I was working in accounting, and I got fired from 2 jobs in a 10 month period. So I was like.

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Tara Hayes: So while I was unemployed I had to do some soul searching. I said, what is it that you want to do, Tara? What is it that you’re passionate about that will light you up, that you’ll be excited to do that you can focus on, and that you can, you know, Talk about

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Tara Hayes: fluently. So that’s when I came across a self publishing course.

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Tara Hayes: And I said, okay, I’m going to be an author like literally. I like I needed another way

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Tara Hayes: that I want it to do like fulfill a passion. So I said, okay, i’m gonna I’m gonna self publish. So I took the Self publishing course.

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Tara Hayes: and I believe that was October, 2,018. So then I got it published in December of 2,019, but in between that time I had to figure out exactly what I wanted to write about, so

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Tara Hayes: I had to brainstorm some topics. I was just starting to get into meditation at that point, so I said, Well, maybe i’ll do meditation. But I said, you know I don’t think i’m flu enough to write a book about meditation. I said, Well, I don’t think I can do that yet. But but the one thing that stood out to me that I felt a lot of people could resonate with was anxiety.

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Tara Hayes: So that’s when I published my my story about anxiety. That’s where panic to picnic came about, and i’ll just lift the book into the book panic to picnic how to find your own personal, that to peace of mind. So my entrepreneurship

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Tara Hayes: journey began. As I was trying to find me, so I was trying to find my own path to peace of mind. I was trying to get from my own panic to reach my own picnic. So that’s basically

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Tara Hayes: what, how my entrepreneur journey came out, and how I decided that I was gonna focus on managing my anxiety and helping others who can relate to my experience. So I know there’s a lot of people out there like me

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Tara Hayes: who are fearful, and who.

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Tara Hayes: when I have a voice, but they are afraid of where to start. So I wanted to be that voice for those introverted female entrepreneurs who are afraid to speak up, but have a story, and they just need a blueprint with how to share it.

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Jennifer Glass: So, Tara, let me ask you, and I do have to just put it out there. You’re not a license therapist or counselor, so that we’re not getting into the medical

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Jennifer Glass: aspects here. but in terms of anxiety. We all have some level of anxiety in our everyday lives. whether it is hearing about what’s going on on the names.

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Jennifer Glass: when.

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Jennifer Glass: as of the recording, there’s been recent, increases in the number of

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Jennifer Glass: unknown objects being shot out of the sky over our country.

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Jennifer Glass: There is the war in Ukraine that is still going on. There is Covid, who’s still showing its head in different parts of the country at different times more than others.

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Jennifer Glass: There’s a lot of things that we can be anxious about in terms of things on those lines. There’s things, then, that also in our own personal lives, whether it’s the economic uncertainty, it is the

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Jennifer Glass: uncertainty in terms of the world. What’s going to happen. There’s the uncertainty of our family lives, right? What’s going to happen with our children? Women especially are constant warriors. Right? We’re worrying about this and that. What’s happening with our kids? Are they getting the right food, sleep, all of that stuff that’s going on? Of course, you know. Are they spending too much time on their devices and friends and all the other things.

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Jennifer Glass: And then there’s anxiety about things that we have absolutely no control, and we cannot do anything about.

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Jennifer Glass: At what point do we need to be taking a step back, though.

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Jennifer Glass: and saying.

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Jennifer Glass: Is this something that I need to be concerned about? Is this something that is maybe not as concerning. And again looking at it from somebody, as you say in your story, self-diagnosed anxiety suffer, and

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Jennifer Glass: i’m probably like you self-diagnosed in terms of some of that.

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Jennifer Glass: How do we get there?

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Tara Hayes: How do you get there? Where to your point? Where you can let go to things that you can’t control

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Tara Hayes: right? So what I would say to that is, if you’re at a point where you need to talk to someone is when you can’t function like I would say that I have high functioning anxiety. But at a point

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Tara Hayes: there was where I really couldn’t function like a point where everything scared me like even like there’s something called a glorophobia like even like to g0 0ut of my house like I went out, but I was afraid to do it. So if you’re at a point where, like you don’t wanna

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Tara Hayes: take interest in anything at all like you’re losing interest and everything. And you literally

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Tara Hayes: like you. You’re just checked out like you’d like. What if what helped me was doing what I love? You know this is what I love, but there’s some people. There’s your point where they

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Tara Hayes: can’t even leave their house like they can’t even do the things that they love to do so. If you’re at that point I would say that you need to get some help, and i’m not against therapy, because I do do therapy as well. So, and I’ve done therapy in a past, and I feel like that’s helpful.

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Tara Hayes: So if you’re a point where you like, you basically can’t function like you can’t sleep. You can’t eat, and I I experience that as well, too. But luckily i’m not at that point anymore, and you just have no passion in life at all. So I would say that that’s when you need to seek help. But if you’re someone who has high functioning anxiety.

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Tara Hayes: you know, like like I do like you’re able to like like like even meeting new people and talking like this could be scary like for an introvert. But if you’re at a point where you can accomplish these things. Then I think, then, you can put in your own self care practices such as like deep breathing. You can d0 10 min.

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Tara Hayes: 10 min daily meditation. Those are things that I do.

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Tara Hayes: even when it comes down like one thing. Before I began my journey I didn’t know the diet was a huge part, and why people were anxious. So I used to drink a lot of sodas when I was when I was younger, and I didn’t pay attention to my diet. But as soon as I started taking taking

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Tara Hayes: attention to my diet, including more greens, including more smoothies.

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it really really minimizes your anxiety. Like. I’m not saying that

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Tara Hayes: i’m not saying that i’m here to help you, you know. Take a what like you said. Everybody has anxiety, so i’m not saying

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Tara Hayes: that i’m here to help you take away. But I’m here to help you manage, you know, Manage your anxiety, and I think it’s. I think it’s possible. If you’re someone you know like me. But if you’re like clinically, you diagnosed like that point where you can’t function, and that’s where you would need to seek extra help.

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Jennifer Glass: You and I are like in that. We’re both introverts.

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Jennifer Glass: I call myself an extroverted introvert.

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Jennifer Glass: I need to just take a step back

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Jennifer Glass: and say, All right, I have to wall myself off because I know I can’t do it anymore.

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Jennifer Glass: So let me ask you as we move forward, though, and we look at the author journey

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Jennifer Glass: right? You wrote these 2 bucks

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Jennifer Glass: what that is like, what you’re doing, and how the journaling can ultimately lead to somebody potentially even writing a book

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Jennifer Glass: in terms of where they were

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Tara Hayes: right. So I actually started by journaling like I mentioned that I started brainstorming ideas. So that’s the brainstorming is a forum of journaling. So

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Tara Hayes: when you start journaling, you can actually put that collection together and get it self published. So

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Tara Hayes: all right, I’m losing my train of but

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Tara Hayes: okay.

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Jennifer Glass: what but could you repeat the question again? The

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Jennifer Glass: journaling to author to having all of those different pieces? What is the

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Jennifer Glass: journey like. Is there that connection? What are you doing that is helping others through that experience?

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Tara Hayes: Well, i’m gonna share again like the beginning of my author journey. I’m gonna say that it’s it’s scary like, especially if you’re writing a memoir. It’s like putting yourself out there. And if you’re introvert and your reserve. That’s one of the things that will be the scariest for you like. When I first became an author

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Tara Hayes: I was didn’t tell anybody like I was posting like only the people that was in my author group, and then posting into different author groups.

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Tara Hayes: So I was even afraid to tell my profile, you know, because it’s like oh, there, like we’re used to Terra being one way we’re used to terra being just quiet, introverted. And now she’s writing a book. So it’s like kind of like that imposter syndrome. I guess

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Tara Hayes: so. I feel like the journaling would help

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Tara Hayes: the journaling and the author, and connects because you can be intimate, and show yourself in your journal, like nobody else is watching really. So you’re being true with yourself as your journaling. And then, when you get to a point where you’re ready to share, then you can connected

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Tara Hayes: and and publish it for and help other people who are looking to you, because there’s there is plenty of people. I would say that you don’t even know who are watching you like they might need to see you, and that’s one of the things that keeps me going, like I see, like people might not always comment, or might all not always share. But I know there’s people out there like me.

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Tara Hayes: So that’s what what keeps me going, and keeps me going on this author journey, and a journaling journaling daily. Well, you don’t have to do a journaling like. There’s different ways to journal as well, like some people like the pen and paper. Some like some people like the digital journals.

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Tara Hayes: I’m normally like a note taker in the phone. So it doesn’t really matter like I used to judge myself of how I journal. But it really doesn’t matter how you journal as long as you get it done. So

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Tara Hayes: on my off the journey, because if if you met me a couple of years ago, I would say, i’m not even a writer. So it’s not to be able to actually write a book. It it starts with journaling, because then you get into the routine

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Tara Hayes: the habit of actually writing things out. And then the next thing you know, you’ll have a published book and like that’s exactly what i’m gonna do like for my third book. I’m gonna

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Tara Hayes: I have a blog post, I mean blogs. So i’m just gonna basically combine my experience, because when you blog blog daily you have your experience and you have another book that that’s possible. So

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Jennifer Glass: and it really is a great way when you look at combining the articles, the posts, things along those lines that you’ve done, because it is a collection, and it doesn’t have to necessarily be

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Jennifer Glass: a fluid one to the next to the next idea.

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Jennifer Glass: Steven.

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Jennifer Glass: and it’s really one, maybe 2 pages

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Jennifer Glass: in terms of an idea.

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Jennifer Glass: and that’s what it really comes down to. It’s what is it that we want to get out there

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Jennifer Glass: with whatever it is that we’re trying to do. The whole idea really should be transformational, not informational.

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Jennifer Glass: and that they are going to get

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Jennifer Glass: in terms of where we’re going and what it is that we need to really be thinking about. So

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Jennifer Glass: let me just go back for a second. You mentioned that n0 0ne else is really looking at what it is that we’re writing in our journal.

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Jennifer Glass: and the only thing that comes to mind is, yeah, your little brother isn’t exactly going and looking at your journal. But the idea that really is like you said it’s private. It’s meant for you to have that

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Jennifer Glass: idea, and then eventually the pieces that are there allows you then to use it as a springboard to writing the book.

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Jennifer Glass: So let’s use that experience now in writing the buck. What

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Jennifer Glass: should we be thinking about when we start writing. Is it

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Jennifer Glass: that we have to get

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Jennifer Glass: 200 pages? Is it that we have to rate 3 h a day? What it, you know. Give us something that we need to be thinking about as we set out

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Jennifer Glass: consciously to start writing that book.

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Tara Hayes: Okay, when you start out constantly sis consciously, to start writing your book. You should have a topic in mind like I, I said, I didn’t have. I did. I had some topics, but I wasn’t sure. So you should have a topic.

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Tara Hayes: and then you should narrow it down like I would say maybe 5 topics that you’re interested in, that you can actually write about like You’ll feel like you want to write about so. And then you’ll narrow that topic down, and then you’ll do research on a topic

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Tara Hayes: like like I said, i’m not a license therapist. I’m just someone who experiences anxiety. S0 0f course, when I was writing my book, I had to do research and research and compare and put my research together with my own experiences. So you should be thinking about researching your subject, and then

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Tara Hayes: you should also create a outline like like the brainstorm, right, you know. Just pull it down the points that you want to get across.

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Tara Hayes: I wouldn’t say think about writing 200 pages, because that was one of my insecurities, like my book, Isn’t. 200 pages, is not like a huge book, so I was like I At first I was like oh, maybe I should write 200 pages, but it that doesn’t matter as long as you’re getting your point across, and some people like short and sweet like those are some of the reviews I’ve got like.

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Tara Hayes: No, you know, I basically got to the point. I didn’t put a lot of fluff in the book. So some people so people like that. So that was one of the things I was like. Oh, this is like a huge No book, but people appreciate that. So you never know who right likes what type of book, and who likes longer or shorter books.

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Tara Hayes: So, and I would say, after you do your outline, that’s when you write like you write everything. If you are not journaling at that point, then you should start journaling, or you should start writing the the body of your book.

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Tara Hayes: So you research your right.

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Tara Hayes: and then, after you write, you start polishing. So that’s when you edit, and you look for your grammaticular errors and everything else, and then so it’s research right, then you

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Tara Hayes: polish, then you publish it. So that’s what I say. You should keep in mind when you’re beginning to write your book. Does that exactly what I did the steps I took.

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Jennifer Glass: So when You’re finished writing the book.

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Jennifer Glass: and you’ve polished it. You’ve looked at grammatical issues. You’ve made sure that everything is right. You paginated it the way that it has to be

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Tara Hayes: We do next? Well, that’s the hard part. I mean. Well, yeah, that’s the hard part. So that’s taken care of right. So after you do all that, you decide what platform

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Tara Hayes: you want to get it published, so it, or but even before that. If you want to get a professional editor, you’ll do that like I didn’t use a professional editor. I use grammarly so, and then you pick the platform you want to upload on. So I did mine through Amazon. But there’s also there’s there’s Ingram spark. There’s

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Tara Hayes: like once you publish your book, your published author like you said. But then what? So? The the the point after that is, you have to start telling people. You know that’s the point, because you can get your book on Amazon, and then there’s plenty of books on Amazon. But if you don’t know how to market it properly. So then it’s like it’s like basically. Oh, I

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Tara Hayes: did all that work for nothing. So after you have everything together, you have your book cover design. You have it edited. You have the platform you want to upload on. That’s that was. That’s the great part you’re published. But then, after that it’s a whole other thing

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Tara Hayes: book marketing, getting everything out there, you know. So that’s that’s after. That’s the end process. After you’ve done all the hard work.

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Jennifer Glass: and I can definitely talk to that

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Tara Hayes: as the author of 3 Bucks already, and another one that is going to be coming out shortly.

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Jennifer Glass: That whole process is definitely, very much involved in in terms of all of the pieces that you laid out

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Jennifer Glass: The book launch parties, whether it’s virtual in person, hybrid having ambassadors having reviews before it even is really out there. A lot of that does start to really make a difference that you know exactly where it’s going to go, and what you’re trying to do.

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Jennifer Glass: you want to think. What is it that you’re looking to get from the book.

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Tara Hayes: And not necessarily that the book is going to make you a 1 million dollars? It might.

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Jennifer Glass: but it may take a long time to get a 1 million dollars in sales. What is it that you’re trying to do right now?

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Jennifer Glass: And so, Tara? I know that you had a special gift that you wanted to be offering our listeners, which directly ties into this idea. Can you tell us more about the author to authority program.

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Tara Hayes: is how to get discovered and featured on media like exactly what i’m doing now. So basically it shows you the self publishing process. I mentioned the 4 key parts of it. You research right.

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Tara Hayes: Polish publish. So that’s it. It includes that. And then, after that point it shows you how to market your book.

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Tara Hayes: and even featured on different blogs. And and basically how to go from author to authority. So you you’re you right. The beginning is when you become a author, and then, when you start sharing your story, you start getting on speaking platforms, you that’s when you become the authority, because people will see you

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Tara Hayes: for what the topic of your book is, and they’ll start to gravitate towards you, and they’ll start to wonder. Oh, how is she doing this? And then you’re the authority now, and you’re able to display your authority. So this that’s basically what the program is about.

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Jennifer Glass: And how would people get that?

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Tara Hayes: How people get that? They can. It’s available on my website. It’s panic to picnic.com and we can. I don’t have the full

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Tara Hayes: What makes me tick? Huh! What makes me get a bit every day? I think it’s another chance to just

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Tara Hayes: I would say, like even getting on a podcast like with someone like like, you know we’ve never met in person, so it’s it could be intimidating, even though it’s not like a live audience. It’s like I still have to show up and show up it as me. So, and for somebody who is introverted

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Jennifer Glass: You have it in you that it’s incumbent on you to show up. and so you can think about it in that regard that you’re not doing it for you. You’re doing it for others.

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Jennifer Glass: only you and me on zoom, or if it’s you and me in front of a room of 100,000 people, or if it is a live television interview, whatever it may be.

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Jennifer Glass: there is a lot there that we can be impacting others by simply showing up. And so having. That is an incredible gift

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Jennifer Glass: It’s a lot different for us to be thinking about in that regard. And so there’s a lot of opportunities there for us to be moving forward. So, Tara again. I want to thank you so much.

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Jennifer Glass: Please again tell us how we can learn more about you.

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Tara Hayes: Right. So would you like me to give my socials, or okay, i’m on Instagram. It’s terra T. A. R. A. Underscore, Martina, M. A. R. T. I. N. A underscore.

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Tara Hayes: and i’m als0 0n Facebook. I have a Facebook page. It’s called Tara Hayes author. I would give my profile page, but I think terra he’s the common name so probably hard to find. So if you if you do Tara Hayes off comma author, you should be able to find me.

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Tara Hayes: and i’m als0 0n i’m. On Linkedin terra he’s it might be hard to find there as well, and I’m. On a platform called Alignable as well.

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Tara Hayes: and then i’ll also give my website. It’s panic to picnic dot com.

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Jennifer Glass: with all your information, so people can certainly look there also to be connecting with you. So again, Tara, thank you again for being my guest on the show.

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Jennifer Glass: says you’re thinking about your own journey. If you’re thinking about the anxiety. If you’re thinking about wanting to be a published author, if you’re thinking about wanting to impact people’s lives.

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Jennifer Glass: Women are terrible in general about thinking of ourselves first.

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Jennifer Glass: We’re always thinking about our family. We’re thinking about our friends. We’re thinking about the community before we think about us. the more that we can really be thinking, what is it that we need.

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Jennifer Glass: the better we’re going to be? If that means that sometimes we need to just journal, to get our thoughts out there, to be grounded, to be more grateful, so that we can lessen the impact of depression and anxiety.

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Jennifer Glass: It is a huge benefit for us to be doing that.

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Jennifer Glass: Again, Very often we’re terrible. We get guilt

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Jennifer Glass: what harm are we bringing upon ourselves in terms of

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Jennifer Glass: what is it that we’re going to be doing in the future. If we cannot think to the future. we’re going to be no good t0 0urselves and to everybody else that

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Jennifer Glass: relies on us to get everything done. So you want to be paying attention to that. You want to be thinking, what can I do for me?

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Jennifer Glass: on that note. This has been another episode of MOJO: The Meaning of Life and Business, and until next time here’s to your success.