Fear, Change, and Finding Your MOJO

Welcome to another episode of MOJO: The Meaning of Life and Business. I’m your host, Jennifer Glass, and today we have a very special guest joining us, Leslie Zwick.

In this episode, we dive deep into the habits of thinking that can hold us back, such as procrastination and perfectionism. Leslie shares how the energy of perfectionism can impact our work, relationships, and personal growth.

We also explore the fears that keep us stuck in our current situations and the importance of embracing change for personal growth. Jennifer highlights the power of shifting mindset and energy to transform our lives. She suggests practical strategies, such as going for a walk to change our environment and practicing gratitude to overcome negativity.

We also hear about Leslie’s habit finder assessment and the importance of self-awareness in the change process. Plus, we delve into the concept of balancing the head mind, heart mind, and gut mind to achieve lasting transformation.

So get ready to shift your energy and mindset as we explore the meaning of life and business with Leslie Zwick.

About my guest: Lesley Zwick is a dedicated professional who assists individuals in embarking on transformative journeys towards holistic well-being. She guides them to achieve optimal physical and mental health, empowering them to overcome limiting beliefs and releasing emotional and mental blocks that hinder personal growth. Through her coaching practice, Lesley facilitates self-discovery, fostering authenticity and self-acceptance. She places a strong emphasis on the importance of building meaningful connections with others. With unwavering dedication and a commitment to excellence, Lesley strives to make a positive impact on the lives of her clients, helping them create a life filled with joy, purpose, and lasting well-being.

Connect with Leslie on ⁠Facebook⁠, ⁠LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠TikTok, ⁠and on the web at ⁠https://www.lesleyzwick.com⁠.

Transcript (auto-generated; may contain errors):

Jennifer Glass [00:00:01]:

Hello, and welcome to another episode of Mojo, the meaning of life and business. A lot of times as we’re going through life, we’re stuck with certain mindsets. We’re stuck in certain positions. And very often, we don’t even think that a lot of this has to do with the way that we’re looking at the world, the way that we’re thinking about the world, again, mindset, but also the energy that is associated with everything that we’re doing. And how we’re doing it makes a really big difference in terms of exactly what it is that we’re trying to do and what we’re trying to ultimately achieve in the process. And I have a really incredible guest on the show today who’s going to help us really understand a little bit more in terms of what it even means to be looking at the mindset in the energy that is involved when we’re dealing with that. But before I bring her on, let me tell you a little bit about her. Leslie Zwick is a dedicated professional who assists individuals in embarking on transformative journeys towards holistic well-being.

Jennifer Glass [00:01:09]:

She guides them to achieve optimal physical and mental health, empowering them to overcome limiting beliefs, and releasing emotional and mental blocks that hinder their personal growth. Through her coaching practice, Leslie facilitates self discovery, fostering authenticity and self acceptance. She places a strong emphasis on the importance of building meaningful connections with others. With an unwavering dedication and a commitment to excellence. Leslie strives to make a positive impact on the lives for clients, helping them to create a life filled with joy, purpose, and lasting well-being. Leslie, welcome to the show.

Leslie Zwick [00:01:50]:

Thank you for having me.

Jennifer Glass [00:01:52]:

Absolutely. Thank you. So let me ask you, Leslie. As we’re looking at where we are in terms of the process in terms of what it is that we’re trying to do, first of all, with mindset. And before we get into anything else, help me understand what do we need to understand about mindset?

Leslie Zwick [00:02:13]:

So mindset is really like, that is the key to changing everything. The way we think about things, the way we look at things can shift everything in the world. One of my favorite quotes that I learned as a child, and I didn’t understand it as a kid, but it was it always resonated with me as if you don’t like something, change it. And if you can’t change it, change the way you look at it. And I didn’t understand this at that at all. Now it’s I always try to live by it, but now really on all levels is part of how I view the world, how I interact in the world. Because everything is how we choose to see something and through our lens, and that’s all about mindset. So when I teach people on mindset, I actually teach about that we actually have a set of minds.

Leslie Zwick [00:02:55]:

Right? When you break it down, set of minds, we have our head mind, our thinker brain. We have our heart, our emotional brain, And we have our gut, our intuition. And those 3 should work together in balance, but oftentimes they don’t. Oftentimes our we give that thinker brain a lot of power, but our thinker brain cannot feel emotion. It can only think about emotions. It cannot it cannot understand intuition. It can only think about and analyze that intuition. And so when we’re talking about shifting mindset, it’s starting to be aware of how much power we’re giving to that thinker brain and and bearing the thoughts of the other pieces of the emotions of the intuition and trying to balance those out so that they each Have their voice where their voice is necessary.

Jennifer Glass [00:03:42]:

Thank you. And I love how you said, by the way, if you can’t change something, change the way that you look at it.

Leslie Zwick [00:03:51]:

Mhmm.

Jennifer Glass [00:03:51]:

Because that’s really key in terms of that whole process. It’s if I can’t get away from it, it’s like change your attitude, change your life.

Leslie Zwick [00:04:00]:

Mhmm.

Jennifer Glass [00:04:00]:

Right? I mean, if you’re so down and gloomy and you start thinking more positively, then all of a sudden, things start to look differently in terms of everything else that you’re doing. So, absolutely right there with you. And let me then go back in and so we spoke about the mindset. Tell me about the energy that because I know when we were talking in the green room, everything in life has energy. Tell me, though, more about the energy. And just that you all know, it’s not the woo hoo energy. You know, it’s actual, something there. So, Leslie, if you could just fill me in a little bit on that, please.

Leslie Zwick [00:04:42]:

Yeah. So energy everything is energy. We are all 99.999% energy. If you go back to e equals mc squared, energy is, you know, energy is equal to mass times the speed of light set up really, really, really fast. Right? So if you it that’s that’s what it is. That’s how we get mass is we, yeah, is we slow down that energy, and it becomes it becomes mass. It becomes solid, but we are all that energy. We’re all energetic beings.

Leslie Zwick [00:05:13]:

So where, you know, where we can touch and feel and this pen that I’m holding, you know, if I sped it up really fast, it would just be energy, but it slowed down just enough to be in the shape of this pen. That’s the same thing that we all are. So energy can be shifted. Energy can be moved. We all feel it all the time. You’ve I’m sure you’ve been in a place where you’ve been sitting in a room and sort of being content, And somebody walks in and they just are in a foul mood and they have all kinds of negative energy around them and you can feel it come compressing down on you, or you can be sitting in that room being sort of content and somebody comes in all excited and happy, and that energy is contagious. That mood is contagious. It’s an energy, and our bodies mix and mingle with that and and feel that and pick up on that, and we hold that energy within us.

Leslie Zwick [00:06:00]:

So when when I’m working with people on on mindset and on per on growth, we hold on to the energies that our brain doesn’t wanna deal with. When I talked about set of minds so when we feel something, it takes 90 seconds for an emotion, the energy of that to run head to toe, to go straight through us. There is no such thing as a bad emotion or a good emotion. It just is. They just are an energy. But what happens is we feel that negative emotion positive emotions, we just let run through us because our body likes that and it feels good, then we just it just happens. But when we have an a negative emotion, sometimes it’s fear, anxiety, overwhelm, all of those things, it goes in. And instead of letting our body process it and take that 90 seconds to feel it and let that energy pass through it, our brain starts to think about it.

Leslie Zwick [00:06:52]:

Our thinker brain starts to think about it And analyze it, and it says, I don’t wanna deal with this right now. This isn’t the right place to be sad or mad or overwhelmed or whatever. And we take that energy, and instead of letting passed through us. We take that energy and we hold onto it. We shove it aside in a corner in our body, and it starts to affect our whole body. We can have that with emotions. We can have that with limiting beliefs. Those beliefs, those ideas, all those are are frequency and an energy.

Leslie Zwick [00:07:18]:

And but we hold on to them, and they sit there, and they fester, and they fester at a very low vibration, and they pull more and more and more and more and more. When you’re holding on to anxiety, it attracts more. Attracts like, and so it’s gonna pull more. So when we learn to actually shift that out of our body and learn how to let that energy flow through us, we can change our lives. We can then tell our thinker brain how to process through that instead of instead of holding on to it, and that’s where it comes into that balancing out the heart, brain, and the gut and the intuition and getting those a little bit more power.

Jennifer Glass [00:07:51]:

So let me ask you. Or not emotionally, logically. I know I gotta get out of a certain place. It’s a much easier said than done. Right? I mean, if I’m in a depressed state or if I’m in an anxious state, and as of the date of this recording, there’s so much going on in the world that it’s really easy to be in an anxious state. How does one get past that logical perspective and start seeing that there is opportunity to really get into a different mindset so that energy becomes something completely different.

Leslie Zwick [00:08:36]:

That’s a great question, and that comes back to if you don’t like something, change it. And if you can’t change the way you look at it if you can’t change it, change the way you look at it. The world is crazy right now, and we can’t change that. I wish I could. Right? I wish I could change some of the things that are happening in the world right now. I can’t change those, But I can choose to hold on to the fear. I can choose to hold on to the anxiety. I can choose to hold on to the overwhelm, or I can choose to say, I’m not going to let those that energy of that affect me, and I’m going to choose and I’m gonna choose the hope, and I’m gonna choose the beauty that I see going on because there’s a lot of beauty that’s going on as well and uniting of people and and all kinds of things.

Leslie Zwick [00:09:16]:

So I can choose which energy I want to allow to to affect my life. And we can do that in anything, in any place in our life. So I actually teach a process called shift, s h I f t. When we’re sitting in a place that we’re really not happy in, we have to shift. Right? So it starts with the s has to be seek change. I have to decide that I don’t like being here anymore, that I want something to change. And so I have to really wanna seek that change. Now diff this comes at us different in different ways.

Leslie Zwick [00:09:46]:

Sometimes it’s external, and then that’s motivation. We have external motivation to do things. People are pushing us in certain ways or it can come from internal, which is not really motivation. That’s really inspiration. And the stronger, the bigger change comes when it comes from internal inspiration, But both will work. Both will start the process. So you have to seek that change. I don’t want to sit in this yuck and guck right now anymore, and I don’t want this to be the the energy that controls my life.

Leslie Zwick [00:10:14]:

Right? Then the 2nd piece is the h. You have to have a plan. You have to come up with a plan of action because if you don’t have a plan, you’re just gonna you know, you go on a road trip. You have a map. You have a plan of where you’re gonna go. And I drive from Florida to Michigan. If I don’t have a plan of how I’m gonna drive, I’m gonna end up in Kansas. Maybe.

Leslie Zwick [00:10:30]:

Right? Who knows where I’m gonna end up? You know? So I have a plan as to how I’m gonna go. Now sometimes we take little detours on that plan. Sometimes we get off, you know, make a pit stop or things things shift around or there’s traffic, and we and we slow down, but but we have to have a plan. So that’s the h. The next piece, the I, is then we have to initiate action. We have to take some sort of action steps forward. So all of us, we’re standing wherever we are in our lives, And I like to give the analogy of being on the side you know, on the Grand Canyon. We’re on the edge of the Grand Canyon, and we can look across and we can see the future version of ourselves.

Leslie Zwick [00:11:06]:

What we wanna be in weeks, months, years, whatever it is, we can see that. But we’re standing here on our side of the this the Grand Canyon sort of stuck. And this is where that thinker brain takes over because as much as it wants what’s over there, we’re stuck there because this is easy. This is safe. This is I know what the challenges are sitting in this place in my life. I know what the challenges are to live, you know, if we’re talking about the world stuff, I know how to live afraid. I know how to live in anxiety. I know how to live in overwhelm.

Leslie Zwick [00:11:38]:

If we’re talking about, you know, someone who’s trying to build a business, I know how it is not to have enough money coming in or have to how to how to fight through all these things even though it’s terrible and it’s not what I want. I know those challenges, and I know how to deal with them. If I go to the other side of the Grand Canyon where my future version of myself is, it’s hit those goals. I don’t there are gonna be different challenges, and I don’t know what those are. I don’t know that I can handle those the way I can handle these. Devil that devil we know is always easier than the devil we don’t know. And so our thinker brain gives us these partial truths. I actually call it the drunk monkey.

Leslie Zwick [00:12:11]:

Gives us the these partial truths, tells us these stories not to hold us back because it doesn’t want us to get to the other side, but because this is safe. It’s trying to protect us. Oh my gosh. Well, we have to build a bridge to get across, and those are gonna be your eye, your action steps. Initiate action is building that bridge. Well, what happens if I start to build that bridge and I fall off into the abyss of the Grand Canyon? Right? So the thinker brain wants to keep us here. And so but that piece, it’s important to take those teeny tiny baby steps Initiate action. Take the 1st little step, and the more little steps you take, the less scary it becomes to the thinker brain because, oh, I did that one.

Leslie Zwick [00:12:46]:

I’m okay. I survived that one. I can do another little baby step. I can do another little baby step. I can do another little baby step. And, eventually, we make it across there, and that’s really important. The f though is the key in all of this. That is facing your fears, facing your limiting beliefs, facing the obstacles that are holding you back, facing the things that you think are safe over here and really looking them in the eye and saying, I see you.

Leslie Zwick [00:13:11]:

I understand you. I recognize you. I don’t choose you anymore, and that’s when we get the t. When we can actually transform, when we can do that. Otherwise, we’re stuck in the SHI around and around and around and around in circles of, I don’t like this. I’m gonna seek change. I’m gonna have a plan. I’m gonna initiate some action, you’re gonna get someplace with that.

Leslie Zwick [00:13:28]:

You’ll move forward a little bit, but you’re not gonna really move all the way across, and you’re gonna keep looping back because you’re not facing those underlying things that are keeping you here. And when you don’t do that, then you just have the s h I and the t, stuck, hurt, insecure, and trapped, And we just stay in this spot, and that’s where so many of us are. But when we do the f and we face that and really look those limiting beliefs in the eye and we really look those fears in the eye and recognize them. We can then clear the energy of them. That’s all it is. It’s an energy, and we can choose to hold on to it, or we can choose to let it go, but we can’t just cover it up. I I love positive affirmations. Positive affirmations are great, But if you just throw a bunch of positive affirmations and start saying all these positive affirmations and don’t clear out the underlying pieces, your brain is yelling at you, you’re a liar.

Leslie Zwick [00:14:18]:

You’re a liar. You’re a liar, and they’re not gonna become your reality. Because when you say, you know, I am I am a wealthy person. A lot of people use that as an affirmation. I am a wealthy person. They think if they say it over and over and over again, I am a wealthy person, they’re gonna be take the steps to become a wealthy person, but your brain is going, but, no, you’re not, and it’s gonna point out all all the evidence to you as to why you’re not a wealthy person on an energetic level, and it’s gonna keep you right in the same spot. But when you look at those in the eye and you look at and say, okay, here are the underlying things where my brain is saying this is a lie. I look at you and I don’t choose you.

Leslie Zwick [00:14:55]:

You can move that energy, and you can start to make those affirmations work for you.

Jennifer Glass [00:15:00]:

So if you were to say I’m on my way to becoming a wealthy person

Leslie Zwick [00:15:04]:

Mhmm.

Jennifer Glass [00:15:04]:

So the brain, even though it’s maybe pointing out, no. You’re not here and here. Is that I am on my way to becoming a wealthy person, a better way of looking at it so that it’s avoiding that issue

Leslie Zwick [00:15:18]:

a little bit. A little. But still, your brain is gonna point out those things. But so what I challenge people to do is sit down and say, where are all the ways in my life I’m not on my way to be a wealthy person? Look at them. Write them out. Create that list and then say, I don’t choose these things anymore. I don’t choose to do these things that counteract my I am on my way to be a wealthy person. If I am on a way my way to be a wealthy person and I had action steps that I’m would be beneficial to me building my business to be a wealthy person, and I’m looking at them saying, I spend too much time scrolling on Facebook.

Leslie Zwick [00:15:54]:

I’m not making the business calls I need to be making. I’m whatever it is that you’re doing that are that and looking at those in the eye and saying, wait. These do not align with that. I’m gonna look them in the eye, and I’m not gonna choose those. And when you actively decide, I’m not going to choose those, you can shift the energy of that. Otherwise, that energy just sorta resonates there. One of my favorite things to teach people to do is to write out your goal. This is where I am.

Leslie Zwick [00:16:20]:

This is how I feel when I’m there, all the different things. And when something pops up that says that counteracts that, you or or is a choice to counteract that, to say, I choose this, whatever it is that does not go along with your goal, over and reach your goal out loud to yourself and see how much sense that makes. So when I work with a weight loss and wellness client and they you know, my client says, I you know, my goal is to be this weight and to feel, you know, healthy in my when I look in the mirror and to whatever that you know, and have better relationships and all the things that are gonna come with being healthy or in a healthy weight, and they’re being faced with a chocolate chip cookie. I choose this chocolate chip cookie over all of this. Does that make sense? Sometimes it might. If that chocolate chip cookie is the world’s best chocolate chip cookie and you’re only gonna have that opportunity to have it once right now and never again, you might very well choose it and say, okay. That’s totally fine. Then there’s no guilt around it.

Leslie Zwick [00:17:18]:

Okay. That’s your little you’re on a road trip, and that’s a little bit of a detour. Detours are gonna happen. That’s reality. But choosing it is the important piece. Looking it in the eye and saying, this is what I choose is where we can change our life. Right? I can’t change the world. You know, you can’t change things in the world, but you can change the way you look at You can change whether you’re going to let it affect you in a positive or a negative way.

Jennifer Glass [00:17:46]:

So funny you mentioned with the chocolate chip cookie because I run into that issue a couple of times. And, I mean, for me, one of the things that I did early on when I was going through my own weight loss journey, I said, I’ll let myself have a little bit of it because otherwise, I’m gonna be craving that thing forever, and I’m just gonna give in and take the whole thing. Right. But if I allow myself a bite or two, then at least I’m going to be conquering that craving

Leslie Zwick [00:18:16]:

Mhmm.

Jennifer Glass [00:18:16]:

And I don’t have to have the rest. And so it allows me to, in moderation, you know, figuring out exactly how to deal with it, and that’s how I kind of figure it out for myself what I was doing there. But let me changed tracks for a moment here. There’s so much in terms of the mindset and in terms of saying, getting out of that imposter syndrome, getting out of the issues that maybe we’re dealing with, that we’re trying just to say, well, yeah, I can really I can focus over here, I can focus over here, and I can focus over here. If I’m now trying to changed a lot in terms of what’s going on. How do I start, if you will, triaging in terms of where things are. Because very often, if you find that you are in one of these downward spirals, there’s so much going on around you that needs to be changed. But how do you start even figuring out, well, I can do this first and then this and then this, or do I do it all at once? How would you

Leslie Zwick [00:19:26]:

You definitely don’t do it all at once. That will just be a complete overwhelm, and that and and you’ll that’ll just send you into a a spiral. So what I generally do when I’m working with somebody is when I talk to them, I ask a lot of questions to figure out what is the first glaring thing, the biggest piece. Honestly, it doesn’t matter which one you start with. They’re probably all intertwined. They’re definitely all intertwined. We have a forest. All of us have a forest full of stuff that we want to shift and change in our lives.

Leslie Zwick [00:19:58]:

So usually it’s the tree that’s right in front of us that it may actually may not be the tallest but it’s all about perspective. So it’s right there in front of us, and so it looks like the tallest one. So whatever that first thing is, you pick something. You start working on that one thing. And when you see improvement in that and you start to take down that tree, then other ones pop up and you see what the next Things are that you have to do piece by piece by piece by piece by piece, and they’re connected. The roots in many of them are all connected together. So when you take down 1, sometimes you may end up others with it because it’s all connected. It’s all tied in.

Leslie Zwick [00:20:33]:

When you were talking about the moderation with with the food, Some people can do exactly what you what you said and have just a small amount, but some people energetically can’t. I you know, working with weight loss and wellness clients. Some people really you know, we teach the 3 byte rule, have 3 bytes, and that’s all you know, that’ll satisfy it. For some people, they can’t do that because energetically, mentally, it’s a it’s that was their savior. That food made them feel good, and they haven’t found they’re they’re tied to that. It’s and it’s the drunk monkey piece of it, at that voice that says, I just need a little bit more. The drunk monkey tells us, I can just have 3 bites. I can just have, you know, 5 bites.

Leslie Zwick [00:21:11]:

I can just have a little bit, and I’ll be okay. And some people can, like but not everybody. And so you have to know yourself. Can I even start with that? And if I can’t, what’s the energy around that? What is my what’s really happening that I’m trying to satisfy or sabotage to keep myself stuck right here? So and we all have different different things. And so when we can get deeper to that level and clear out the pieces deeper to that level, Then we can get to a point. I used to not be able to just take 3 or 4 bites and move on. I was one of those people that struggled with it, but now I can because I went deeper and found where the limiting beliefs were. I didn’t believe that I deserved to be healthy.

Leslie Zwick [00:21:56]:

On on a deep level, I didn’t believe that I was worthy of of keeping my weight off. I didn’t believe that I was worthy of hell having a healthy body. But when I got and it took a long time to clear, though, those things. But when I got to that point that I shifted that, now I can have a few bites. I’m not trying to sabotage anything because I do feel worthy of it on all levels or on a lot more levels. It still pops up. It’s you know, it’ll probably be a lifetime journey. There’s always more to clear, But it’s starting to recognize that.

Leslie Zwick [00:22:25]:

And I always tell people that transformation is in the trigger. So for you, that was no longer a trigger, which was awesome. But for some people, it is. So when they find when you find that trigger or whatever it is to look it in the eye and say, why are you still triggering me? What’s going on here that is triggering me that I need to go deeper to clear it out, to face to face to move forward, and that’s in anything. A weight loss is an easy one to give an example with, but it’s in anything that we do in our life. It’s in business. It’s in relationships. It’s any habits that we have.

Leslie Zwick [00:22:59]:

Habits of thinking, one of the big things that comes up in for people, procrastinators. You know, that’s a huge one when I’m working with people. What’s in it? Why am I holding on to that energy of procrastination? And we can dig deep and dig deep and dig deep, and when we finally hit whatever that piece is and start to, like, you know, chop down that tree, sometimes we Get it right at the base, and sometimes it’s branches. You know? Little bit, little bit, little bit. But when we get rid of that, all of a sudden, we don’t have that need to to procrastinate or perfectionism is a big one. When I work with someone who really struggles with perfectionism and I ask them, well, who do you know that’s perfect? And they always struggle. It’s the same answer. Nobody.

Leslie Zwick [00:23:38]:

Okay. But it’s an energetic thing. Right? It’s it’s an energy that we’re pulling towards that because it keeps us safe. Well, If I can’t be per perfect, then that’s the reason why everything is falling apart for me. And it’s a safety net.

Jennifer Glass [00:23:56]:

I love that question. Who do you know that’s perfect? And it really helps to put things in perspective because you can’t then hold yourself to that level of I gotta be here in order for me to be successful or to do whatever. It’s just I have to be the best version of me instead, which allows me then to start seeing things completely differently.

Leslie Zwick [00:24:25]:

Yep. Yeah. I was talking to a client earlier today who really struggles with this perfectionism, and her business is not growing because the team that she leads, in her head, she has to be perfect. And I said to her, I said, the problem with that is if you have to be perfect so you can’t lead them so well, they’re gonna feel like they have to be perfect, and they can’t live up to those standards because nobody nobody’s perfect. So if you let down that guard of everything has to be perfect and I can just do this to my best of my ability, then they’re gonna follow suit, and they’re gonna do things to the best of their ability without that stress of, oh my gosh. She’s expecting perfection from me. But we don’t realize that until we start to look at how it’s affecting other things in our lives. We see it, you know, in work, with our kids, whatever it is, all those pieces, it it plays a role.

Leslie Zwick [00:25:15]:

And when when I was I was going through her habit finder assessment, which is a free assessment that I give to anybody any Anybody that wants to take it and understand their habits of thinking, and we were looking at how her her her idea of being a perfect affected everything in her life, in every category of her life, but especially in her ability to connect with other people because She had this guard up. If I can’t do it perfectly, then I can’t connect as well with you. And so it’s it’s fascinating to understand your habits thinking and then to understand that that’s just an energy. That energy of perfectionism, we can clear that. We don’t have to hold on to it. It’s a safety net. It’s an energy that we’re holding on to to keep us safe and to be a reason why we can’t move forward. But all these things are the are exactly the same the same way.

Jennifer Glass [00:26:05]:

So let me actually peel the onion a little bit here. There’s a lot of things that we’ve been talking about to move on. Mhmm. What would be reasons that people may choose other than they’re not worthy of wanting to stay put where they can’t, for whatever reason, really start moving forward we’re even backward. You know? I mean, movement is movement, which is important because sometimes you do need to move back to start moving forward.

Leslie Zwick [00:26:37]:

Yes.

Jennifer Glass [00:26:38]:

But sometimes people are just stuck. So how do we I mean, why would somebody be stuck?

Leslie Zwick [00:26:46]:

It’s it’s usually a fear. There’s usually you know, it’s a sometimes it’s a fear of of success. It’s usually more a fear of success than it is a fear of failure. What happens if I’m actually successful. We’ll go back to the weight loss analogy again because this is an easy one. For someone who like myself, Who struggled with weight my entire adult life. When I sort of started going on this journey, I couldn’t see. It was this fear of if I actually get there and keep it off, then what am I gonna have to worry about? I know how to battle this battle.

Leslie Zwick [00:27:17]:

What’s the next battle I’m gonna have to battle? And that battle might be harder. This one, I know how to do. I know how to stay in this loop of, you know, seek change, have a plan, initiate action, and I can get some results. And then I put the weight back on, on. And so I seek change, have a plan, initiate results. Same things. I know what to do with that, and so it’s safe to stay in that place where if I go to this other place, if I lose the weight, if I build my business the way I wanna build my business you know, when when our family, Seven and a half years ago, we were deep in debt. It was terrible.

Leslie Zwick [00:27:52]:

We, you know, had just had a car repossessed. We we, you know, we were struggling to keep the roof over our heads. We couldn’t it was it was a really, really, really, really hard time for us. And but even though it was so hard, we knew how to live in that. And so getting out of that, the fear of, well, what do I have to do when I don’t have to worry about how I’m gonna pay my bills anymore? Right, what challenges are going to come with that? And we all have around money. There’s all kinds of limiting beliefs and all kinds of ideas that people underlying things that people have around money and and making money and getting out of debt and and all of the all of the stuff. And it’s when I dive into that with clients, it’s it’s huge what comes out. But it’s those things, those those nonideals that come around when I have that that, you know, that fall under it.

Leslie Zwick [00:28:43]:

When we get to those, those scare us. Right? When I don’t have any more debt, well, what are people gonna think of me? Is everybody gonna come ask me for money all the time? Is you know, are am I gonna be able to maintain this? I couldn’t maintain it the last time we blew all of our money the last time, so am I gonna be able to do it again? Am I gonna be able to manage? But, like, all the things of what challenges are gonna come up, Well and we don’t think about it. These are not logical things usually until we start asking until I start asking the questions of people and start digging deeper, but, energetically, it’s all there. Energetically, it’s those little whisperings of, it’s just easier just to stay like this because you know how to do this. You know how to live in debt. You know how to, you know, into the month with just a few dollars left in the bank account barely getting by. You know how to live that way, but do you know how to manage your money if you actually have a decent amount of money in the bank account, not to let it drain it. Do you know how to do these things that you’re gonna know that you’re gonna be able to do when you don’t have to worry about finances.

Leslie Zwick [00:29:44]:

The same thing with with weight. The same thing with when you have a healthy relationship. 1 of a client that I have that I’m working with, she and her husband do not have a great relationship. And, you know, part of it is, well, what would happen if you actually fix the relationship? Either fix the relationship between the 2 of you, which you know, or decided to get divorced. I don’t tell people which way to go. It’s not up to me to to decide that. But either way, both things are super scary. I know how to live the way I’ve lived for the last 15 years with my spouse, with us fighting.

Leslie Zwick [00:30:20]:

We’ve made it we just sort of lived this way. I don’t know what it would be like to for us to actually get along and have to communicate in a good way and support one another. I don’t know what that would look like, And I don’t know what it would look like to get divorced and have to divide our kids between between the 2 houses. So I’m just gonna stay right here because this even though it stinks, it’s safe. I know how to do this. Yeah. So it’s and and that’s why sometimes, though, change happens. Life is going to change.

Leslie Zwick [00:30:50]:

Change in is inevitable, but it’s are you going to step into it and take control over the change, Are you gonna let it happen and then just, you know, fly by the seat of your pants and not take control over it?

Jennifer Glass [00:31:02]:

Yeah. The w you know and the w you don’t is definitely one of the, challenges that a lot of us face. But let me ask you, though, because sometimes there’s external challenges Yep. That impact a lot of what we’re dealing with. I mean, I’m gonna take me as an example. Okay? For me as a 911 survivor and all of the things going on as of the day of this recording where you keep hearing, it’s Israel’s 9 eleven that’s going on, and so the whole 911 is just being thrown around. And whether it’s meant to be thrown around in the terror side. It’s meant to be thrown around in the let’s rally around the country to help supported.

Jennifer Glass [00:31:56]:

Whatever the issue is that somebody is using it for, it triggers a lot. In somebody that has PTSD. As a result of 911, there’s those external triggers that keep popping up. So, like, one of the things that I’ve done, and I learn the whole tapping thing and minimizing how much I pay attention in the media at times. Although for me as a news and political junkie, you know, I mean, that’s my vices. People smoke. They drink. I watch the news and follow politics.

Jennifer Glass [00:32:29]:

You know, future president of the United States here one day. But in terms of where the external come in. How does that work in terms of and, again, there’s the energy that we’re, you know, taking from outside. There’s the energy that we’re putting out to come back at us. But how do we, in times like this, managed to work around the craziness or the issues that may come up.

Leslie Zwick [00:33:02]:

Mhmm. So some of it is You you have to take a balance of tactical, practical things. So if you know something triggers you, you can either choose to avoid it. Right? And if you’re not ready to face it head on, which that’s definitely one way to handle it, but it’s not gonna go away. If you don’t face it head on, it’s still gonna keep popping up. But if you look at it and start to say, okay. Why am I being triggered? Where and I take people through energetic, energetic processes and to really find energetically where is that trigger sitting inside of my body because it’s there. It’s an energy you’re holding on to.

Leslie Zwick [00:33:39]:

PTSD is very real, and it’s very much an energy. And so we can we can go in, and we can find that energy in your body. And we can really start to dig deep, and you can clear that energy and release it. So then it becomes it doesn’t release memories. You’re gonna remember all things, but it’s not going to have the energetic pull on you that it does while you’re still holding on to that. Right? But like I said early on, we hold on to that energy and that attracts more of it. So it’s pulling in when you’re watching the news. That energy wants more of it because that’s what it thrives off of.

Leslie Zwick [00:34:13]:

So that PTSD energy wants more of that, and so it’s saying, give me a little bit more. Give me a little bit more. It doesn’t feel good to you, right, to the rational thinker brain, But it’s just an energy. But when you can clear that energy out, then it can be, okay. I can watch the news, and I don’t have to be energetically triggered the same way. Can look at it a little bit differently, and that can be in in anything. We all have triggers in our lives, from Every kind of thing. I mean, I work with clients who have gone through abuse.

Leslie Zwick [00:34:40]:

I’ve worked with clients who have been through all kinds of different things, and we can clear that so that When they hear certain things or see certain things, it doesn’t trigger them the same way energetically as it did beforehand. And it’s a process. You know, it’s not some people, it’s quick. Some people, we can hit it right away and, boom, we can move it out. And some people, it’s it takes a little bit longer depending on how deep it is and and How open they are to letting it go because that’s an important piece to it. You have to really be ready to let it go. Sometimes we use those things as a reason to stay here. I can use this as my excuse, especially, you know, I’ve I’ve worked with clients who and they’re not doing it logically.

Leslie Zwick [00:35:20]:

So this is not like but they’re they’re still gaining some sort of benefit from it. I I’ll give my daughter as an example. Her knee, she has an issue with her knee. Ernie, it’s it’s old energy stuff. And she knows it, and I know it, and she’ll say it. She’s she’s an empath, and she understands this, but she’s still gaining benefit from holding on to that, and it’s manifesting in physical pain. She’s gaining benefit even though it stinks, even though she complains she’s in pain, and even though she can’t do the things she wants to do and whatever else, she’s gaining benefit because she’s attention, and she’s getting like, all the different things that it’s enough just enough of a benefit that it says, I’m just gonna keep pulling this energy in right here. And she knows.

Leslie Zwick [00:36:04]:

We’ve had many conversations. She said, I know. I just have to decide I don’t want this energy anymore, and I finally decided, all feel better. My knee can then heal. Right? So when we go out of balance, first, we go out of balance energetically. And if we stay out of balance energetically long enough for holding enough of that in our bodies, that’s when we get disease. We get pain. We get illnesses.

Leslie Zwick [00:36:26]:

We get all those things. So we get go out of thing so we’re out of balance physically. And then when we start to clear that, we come back and balance energetically, and then our body can heal physically. So I believe her that her knee hurts completely 100%. There’s no question in my mind that her knee hurts, but she’s gotta decide that she wants to shift that energy, clear that energy out so that it can actually heal, and we can all do that. When we I I I explained before that energy takes 90 seconds to run through head to toe. When we decide to hold on to it, think of your body as a big parking lot. And the trucks semitrucks come in and out of each of these parking spots to bring whatever it is that that part of your body needs.

Leslie Zwick [00:37:03]:

So your heart comes in and out, bringing what it needs in and out. But if there’s a ball of energy sitting in its parking spot, it can’t get in and out to bring what it needs. Maybe it can get partially in and do part of its run. And but, if it sits there too long, it can’t get in. And so then it starts blaring its horn, And that’s our body yelling, I don’t feel well. There’s a problem here. Clear this. And when we ignore it long enough, we do actually get sick because Our body can’t handle it.

Leslie Zwick [00:37:29]:

When we go in, we clear that energy, then our body can heal. Sometimes we get too far past and, yeah, it’s, you know, too far, and it can’t heal anymore. But a lot of times, if we catch it early enough, it can heal. Our bodies are pretty miraculous things. I’ll tell you, my daughter, same one who has the issue with the knee, which is why she this is why she completely knows she can shift to the energy. She has a very rare blood disorder. 1 in 10,000,000 in pediatrics. Her body creates too many red cells, white cells, and platelets, and we do energy work on her.

Leslie Zwick [00:38:00]:

She and I do energy work all the time. We use a variety of tools. We do a variety of things. And every year, she has an annual bone marrow biopsy to watch Her numbers because everybody creates too many too many, or some number of, irregular cells. That’s just normal. So they do a bone marrow biopsy every year to check to see how many irregular cells she has because when when and if her body ever starts to create too many of them being irregular cells, it means our body’s starting to flip to leukemia. It’s our condition. In adults, this is a geriatric disease.

Leslie Zwick [00:38:29]:

In adults that get it, it’s always, if they live long enough with it, a a pre leukemia condition. So they watch for this to see watch her cell the how many mutated cells there are. Her last, bone marrow biopsy that she had done and we’ve been doing for the last, now, year and a half, really consistent energy work to keep her body energetically in balance. And her numbers were better than any than a kid her age normally would be. She had so few irregular cells, The doctors were blown away. They called me. They’re like they they’re like, we don’t understand this. Well, why? Because we’ve cleared the energy that allows her body to to produce healthy cells.

Leslie Zwick [00:39:10]:

We don’t have to create, irregular cells. We don’t have to create unhealthy cells. We do because we’re holding on energy. Everybody’s bodies do. But we had cleared all that. And so her results were crazy good. And, basically, I mean, her body still creates too many red cells, white cells, and platelets, But it’s creating all healthy ones or the way majority healthy ones. That’s energy.

Leslie Zwick [00:39:32]:

We can do that in our bodies. Right? We can we can choose to let go of that stuff. We can find it and let go of it and clear it so our bodies can work efficiently, and and we can create the life that we want. That’s what I help people do is move from point a to point z as quickly as possible and so that they can actually create their dreams and reach the goals that they’ve set. Because our goals, we have all we all have these amazing goals, But we have this underlying stuff, this underlying limiting beliefs, whatever it is, that come up that our brain, on some level, says, I can’t really do that, or that would be really scary if I do that, or what happens if I actually do that? And then what do I do next? How can I pass that? If I hit that goal, then how can I do something even better than that? So I’ll just stay right here. There’s all the different things, and it’s different with everybody what it is. But it’s there’s all that underlying stuff.

Jennifer Glass [00:40:28]:

Thank you. And I’m so glad, Elise, that your daughter is, you know, producing healthier ourselves then not. So, Leslie, let me ask you, what makes you get up every day?

Leslie Zwick [00:40:43]:

It makes me get up every day. My mission in this world is to shine my light as bright as I possibly can and help others find and shine their lights. Right? There’s so much darkness in this world even before all this craziness started, and we all every single person has a light inside of them, and most of us have buried that light. And we have covered it with the limiting beliefs, the all the negative self talk, all that stuff. And I know that when I shine my light brightly, light attracts light. And so my mission in life is really to figuring out how to shine my light as bright as I can so that others so that I can help draw out the light in other people so that we can we can bring that into this world we all have big dreams and big goals that we are capable of creating and reaching, and I just wanna help people do that and see that and see what amazing things will happen in this world when we all step up and and start doing that and believing in ourselves a little bit more.

Jennifer Glass [00:41:43]:

Beautiful. Thank you. And another question is, what do you define as success? And do you see yourself as successful right now?

Leslie Zwick [00:41:55]:

I definitely see myself as successful right now. I’m here. I’m alive. I’m growing. I’m reaching new peep more and more people, and to me, that’s success. You know, success to me is not necessarily I mean, there’s financial success. There’s a variety of successes, but I look around at my family at the at where we have come from. Anyway, I told you seven and a half years ago, we were in a really bad place.

Leslie Zwick [00:42:20]:

I was in a really bad place emotionally, physically, financially. And just to look back and to see the amazing growth that I’ve had and the changes the positive changes that have happened in my family, the positive changes that I have been able to help others have, to me, that’s huge success. That ripple effect of I don’t even know what that’s gonna do in the world, But that to me is success. If I’ve you know, I always say if I’ve helped 1 person change their life, I I that’s that’s success, and I know I’ve helped a lot of people. I hear it all the time, and that’s that’s just my goal. If I’m up every day and god is giving me another day to shine my light bright, then that’s success. Thank you.

Jennifer Glass [00:43:03]:

You’re welcome. So people have been listening to our conversation for the last 40 some odd minutes, and they’ve been listening and getting a couple of ideas, getting thoughts and things along those lines. Tell me first, please, how does somebody get that habit, finder that you mentioned?

Leslie Zwick [00:43:27]:

Yep. So you can take my free habit finder assessment at understand your habits.com. And it’s a free assessment. And when you take the assessment, definitely sign up for the free debrief that I offer because that’s where the goal is. You’ll look at the assessment and you may or not may not understand or be able to connect the dots. So definitely hop on that free debrief call with me so that we can go through it, and look through it.

Jennifer Glass [00:43:52]:

And how can people connect with you otherwise?

Leslie Zwick [00:43:55]:

Yep. So you can either find me on Facebook at Leslie Weiszwick on Facebook. I’m also on Instagram and on TikTok. Those are Facebook is the best way to get in touch with me, or you can send me an email at [email protected].

Jennifer Glass [00:44:11]:

Thank you. Welcome. And one other question I have for you. If you were to look out, let’s say, 3 to 5 years from now. Where do you see Leslie being?

Leslie Zwick [00:44:27]:

Oh, I see. I I can’t like, I honestly don’t look that far out because if you had told me 3 years ago, literally 3 years ago, November it was today. 3 years ago today, we were living in Michigan, but we were packing up our car to move to go to Florida that was just supposed to be for 6 months to get rid of to avoid the, Michigan lockdown from the pandemic in the cold. And 3 years later, we have sold our house in Michigan and living in Florida, and everything has changed. So I have learned not to look that far down the road because man plans and god laughs. So but, really down the road. My like I said, my mission is to help as many people as possible. So I see down the road having helped you know, I I run a subscription based community group where I help people shift energy.

Leslie Zwick [00:45:21]:

I see that group being huge. I see having a lot of other people that I have trained and taught how to do exactly what I’m doing so that we can help a lot of people shift energy and and change this world for the better. How that’s going to play out over the next 3 to 5 years, I don’t know because my whole life is not what I would have pictured seven and a half years ago. If you had told me that this is what I would be doing now when when we were just in a terrible place, I would have laughed at you. But I feel like I’ve been given a lot of gifts, always throughout my life, but really in the last seven and a half years, I’ve been giving gift after gift after gift after gift that’s been guiding me To be able to fulfill the mission that I’m here to helping people change their lives and and find who they’re they reconnect with who they truly are inside.

Jennifer Glass [00:46:12]:

Thank you. And that’s definitely a great way to look at it and, to really be thinking, you know, just being there to be that person to help people discover their gift. So, Leslie, I wanna thank you so much for being my guest on the show today. Right. And, I hope that all of you listening, you got so much information, so much value from this, episode. One of the things that we all need to be thinking about, and we started the show this way, was the idea of really shifting your mindset in shifting your energy. If you can change your attitude, you really can change your life. There’s so many opportunities for you to be going to a different place when you’re in a different mindset.

Jennifer Glass [00:47:06]:

One of the things that I personally have been saying for so long is if you ever need to get away from your funk that you’re in right now, go outside for a walk. It’s not gonna follow you. When you can change your 4 walls, things start to naturally change. And the other thing is also when you’re in a position of gratitude, you can’t have that negativity that’s there also because your mind can’t process good and bad. And whether it’s real emotions like Leslie was saying, you know, it’s not a good motion or a better motion, but the brain can’t really figure out good and bad at the same time. It can only focus on 1. So if you focus on gratitude and you start keeping a gratitude journal, it’s a way for you to really start getting away from those negatives and start focusing more on how can you really get more positive and go from there. There’s so much that you really can do, but, definitely, please check out the understand, your habits, .com site, that Leslie mentioned.

Jennifer Glass [00:48:17]:

Take advantage of Leslie’s habit finder assessment and the debrief because it’s really gonna be an opportunity for you to figure out where your blocks are in what you can do to start finding a new path forward. It’s important that you keep on looking forward. Don’t look back. Yes. We need to look back because we have to know where we came from to know where we’re going to. Like Leslie said, driving from Florida to Michigan, you may not be looking in your rearview mirror, but you are looking, well, I already came 800 miles, so I know at least I’m over here. If you ever see on the plane the little thought that never seems to be moving. The plane is moving, though.

Jennifer Glass [00:48:59]:

It’s the same idea. You’re on that path moving forward. You’re going to be getting there. On that note again, Leslie, thank you so much for being my guest.

Leslie Zwick [00:49:08]:

Thank you for having me.

Jennifer Glass [00:49:10]:

Absolutely. This has been another episode of Mojo, the meaning of life and business. And until next time, here’s to your success.