Driving Innovation through Adventure

There are some times that we simply need to take a step back and listen to what we’re feeling and how we’re looking at life if we really want to get ahead. It’s when we completely ignore these thoughts and feelings that we end up getting reckless and stop thinking straight as my guest did before he started listening to what was going on inside.

About my guest: Layne Gneiting has lived two lives.  In his ‘first life,’ he was angry, entitled, addicted, and trapped.  Cycling home at night from grad school he played Russian roulette with traffic lights, risking collision to end the pain.  

Then he took a wild adventure and became alive again. 

Since then he’s cycled 49 countries, stayed with complete strangers, racked up hundreds of stories, and helped clients “reshape their lives” through what they call “an immersive adventure of awakening.”

Connect with Layne on Facebook, LinkedIn and on the web at https://wayofthehero.com

Transcript (auto-generated; may contain errors):

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Jennifer Glass: Hello and welcome to another episode of MOJO: The Meaning of Life and Business.

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Jennifer Glass: For a lot of people when we are looking at what it is that we’re doing in innovation we start thinking about.

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Jennifer Glass: Well, I can do this. I can do that. I need to constantly innovate.

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Jennifer Glass: If you’ve been following me long enough. You know that I’m always talking about a need to innovate, to be doing something different, because if we don’t innovate, someone is going to eat our lunch. They are going to be putting us out of business.

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Jennifer Glass: and we have a really incredible guest on the show today who’s really going to help us understand, though, where some roadblocks might be coming in

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Jennifer Glass: into the innovation process that start to cause us all sorts of unintended consequences. As we look at. How do we begin innovating before I bring my guest in, though let me tell you a little bit about him.

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Jennifer Glass: Layne Gneiting has lived 2 lives. In the first he was angry, entitled.

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Jennifer Glass: Addicted and Trapped

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Jennifer Glass: Cycling Home at night from grad school he played Russian roulette with traffic lights, risking collision in the pain.

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Jennifer Glass: Then he took a wild adventure and became alive again.

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Jennifer Glass: Since then he’s cycled 49 countries

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Jennifer Glass: stayed with complete strangers, wrecked up hundreds of stories and help clients reshape their lives through what they call an immersive adventure of Awakening

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Jennifer Glass: Layne.

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Jennifer Glass: Wow

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Layne Gneiting: and late thanks.

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Jennifer Glass: Absolutely. Wow! Welcome to the show.

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Layne Gneiting: Thanks, Jennifer. I’m excited to be here.

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Jennifer Glass: Absolutely. Thank you.

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Jennifer Glass: So

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Jennifer Glass: before we

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Jennifer Glass: get into innovation.

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Jennifer Glass: let me ask you in your bio, I mean, we spoke about the Russian Roulette, which is incredible

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Jennifer Glass: that you survived it

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Jennifer Glass: right. Russian Roulette with traffic lights, with the cars with everyone.

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Jennifer Glass: Tell us more

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Jennifer Glass: where you were dealing with at that moment

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Jennifer Glass: that made you, as you were coming home from school.

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Jennifer Glass: Be doing that.

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Layne Gneiting: you know. Thank you so much for asking Jennifer the Big. There were 2 big things going on in my life that were just frustrating. One was the mental map that I had accumulated.

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Layne Gneiting: and the other was my identity.

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Layne Gneiting: and they both intertwined. I just felt like I was trapped.

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Layne Gneiting: but as you mentioned, I was addicted, I would I, is it? I flirted with having an affair. I didn’t, but I certainly flirted with it, and I just felt like

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Layne Gneiting: what I wanted in life

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Layne Gneiting: wasn’t happening, and there was no way that I could create it because I was stuck.

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Layne Gneiting: I was stuck in a job that

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Layne Gneiting: the paycheck to paycheck and and looked good, but really was not sole satisfying.

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Jennifer Glass: And so when you went through that night

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Jennifer Glass: and you came home okay.

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Jennifer Glass: and you were

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Jennifer Glass: whether you were relieved or you are upset. That’s a

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Jennifer Glass: different question.

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Jennifer Glass: But what happened after that? What was the

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Jennifer Glass: genesis of you deciding to start going around the world? Start seeing

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Jennifer Glass: all of these different places that you’ve been, and I mean staying on strangers couches.

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Jennifer Glass: you know, is kind of I mean, there is the couch surfing business, and I don’t know maybe you went through them or not different story. But what got you to that place that you were

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Jennifer Glass: looking at doing that?

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Layne Gneiting: So, Jennifer? Thank you. I think that each one of us has something inside us from childhood that the origins of our purpose in life really begin there. And

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Layne Gneiting: I finally

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Layne Gneiting: those magical childhood stories that I I had dreamt of and imagined as a kid, but I found it in the oddest sort of journeys, and that was online back in the days of dial up, you know you

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Layne Gneiting: and you dial in.

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Layne Gneiting: and then it took forever for things to load. But I found

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Layne Gneiting: stories of people who had cycled across America

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Layne Gneiting: and Jennifer. When they got done

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Layne Gneiting: they came home, and they gutted their garage.

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Layne Gneiting: They said: For 3 months I lived off of what I had on my bike. I looked at everything I had in my garage, and thought, Why do I need this crap?

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Layne Gneiting: And they got rid of it.

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Layne Gneiting: and that

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Layne Gneiting: that

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Layne Gneiting: provoked some serious introspection, and questions like.

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Layne Gneiting: Wow!

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Layne Gneiting: In our society. Who in the world does that? It is so counterculture?

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Layne Gneiting: Why, Why would people do that? What would they have experienced

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Layne Gneiting: to make them do that?

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Layne Gneiting: And I wanted that in the worst way.

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Jennifer Glass: and that definitely makes a lot of sense in terms of looking back and seeing that other people were doing that, and then figuring all those pieces out. And it reminds me of the

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Jennifer Glass: a movie for scum.

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Jennifer Glass: When he ran across the country. And

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Jennifer Glass: that’s similar idea. I mean.

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Jennifer Glass: The movie was brilliant, and Tom Hanks was absolutely amazing in that movie.

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Jennifer Glass: and I still love watching it every now and then when I see it on TV sometimes.

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Jennifer Glass: But when you’re going through

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Jennifer Glass: there’s some sort of

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Jennifer Glass: idea that you are, I guess, looking to find your inner piece.

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Jennifer Glass: So what was that inner piece that you were trying to ultimately get at? I mean, was it.

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Jennifer Glass: I have too much stuff

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Jennifer Glass: that we live in a world of materialism, was it? You are looking to find

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Jennifer Glass: direction? You are looking to find tranquility. I mean, there’s a lot of things that we can be looking at here.

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Layne Gneiting: Yeah, as we look at that

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Layne Gneiting: so great question, I think that ultimately

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Layne Gneiting: getting out. Your garage is just a metaphor for something bigger.

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Layne Gneiting: and that is that we live our lives trapped in society’s stories

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Layne Gneiting: at least people like I was. We’re living

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Layne Gneiting: according to other people’s, expectations, other people’s stories about how the world is, and how it should be.

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Layne Gneiting: and

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Layne Gneiting: deep inside that wasn’t how I felt it should be

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Layne Gneiting: so.

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Layne Gneiting: taking this daring adventure

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Layne Gneiting: exposed me to all kinds of new ways of living and experiencing life, and

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Layne Gneiting: and and a big part of it was.

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Layne Gneiting: We’re yet mediated

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Layne Gneiting: into believing that everyone has a gun in one hand and a knife in the other, and they’re ready to grab you.

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Layne Gneiting: And what I found is that people had

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Layne Gneiting: a key to their house in one hand and a loaf of bread and the other, and they couldn’t wait to give it to you

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Layne Gneiting: like Seriously, it was

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Layne Gneiting: mind boggling how just that journey, let alone all the other journeys throughout the world. But just that coast to coast journey.

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Layne Gneiting: We had people

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Layne Gneiting: just about every week invite us into their homes, feed us.

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Layne Gneiting: take your in sometimes overnight.

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Layne Gneiting: Fourth of July weekend, a family said, Well, you’re going to stay with us.

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Layne Gneiting: I said. Well, wait a minute. It’s not just my wife and I. We got 7 kids, all the merrier great. You’re staying with us

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Layne Gneiting: like all. Okay. And so we stayed with this elderly couple and their family.

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Layne Gneiting: all Fourth of July weekend, and had a blast.

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Layne Gneiting: really, that’s what it is. Is the expectations crowding us. We allow those to fill our garage, our heads.

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Layne Gneiting: and

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Layne Gneiting: for me and the other people who I read about.

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Layne Gneiting: It was like they just got rid of it.

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Layne Gneiting: They realize that has no place in my life anymore. I can move forward

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Layne Gneiting: the way I think life should be lived instead of the way Mom, or my cousin, or that guy over there thinks I should live

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Jennifer Glass: so with the story of how you came to where you are. Now

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Jennifer Glass: let’s look at innovation.

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Jennifer Glass: because, first of all, you innovated yourself

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Jennifer Glass: right. I mean you had your own evolution where you were before to where you were at this point.

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Jennifer Glass: and you were looking at innovation in other ways as well. But let’s talk about innovation. When you look at innovation

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Jennifer Glass: We mentioned in the introduction to the show

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Jennifer Glass: that there’s sometimes roadblocks that get put up in front of us as we’re trying to innovate.

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Jennifer Glass: So let’s talk about some of those roadblocks. What are they? What do we need to be looking out for?

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Layne Gneiting: Yeah. Great question. So, Jennifer, the biggest one, I think, is our own mental maps.

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Layne Gneiting: And you mentioned for us, Gump. I’d like to add another one. And have you seen the secret life of Walter Midi.

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Jennifer Glass: Yes.

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Layne Gneiting: okay. Who is the actor in that?

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Layne Gneiting: I’m trying to think who’s the actor?

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Layne Gneiting: Yeah, Ben, stiller.

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Layne Gneiting: So notice that in the beginning and this all ties back into your question.

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Layne Gneiting: But in the beginning he had a certain identity

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Layne Gneiting: and a certain mental map of how the world worked.

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Layne Gneiting: And as he headed out on these adventures.

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Layne Gneiting: One by one they got peeled back, so that he

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Layne Gneiting: who he became was someone dramatically different from who he was before.

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Layne Gneiting: and all the adventures in between required him to innovate

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Layne Gneiting: and to create a new mental map about how the world works.

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Layne Gneiting: It totally shifted.

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Layne Gneiting: and I

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Layne Gneiting: Some time ago I looked at the Rockefeller definition of

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Layne Gneiting: innovation. And I think you’ll like this.

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Layne Gneiting: There are 4 points to innovation

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Layne Gneiting: that

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Layne Gneiting: that we don’t always realize.

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Layne Gneiting: The first is that

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Layne Gneiting: innovation is any act, idea, product, or process.

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Layne Gneiting: that one

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Layne Gneiting: challenges current or previous assumption.

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Layne Gneiting: 2 departs from previous practice.

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Layne Gneiting: 3 integrates frames, or imagine seemingly disparate points of view or existing elements in novel ways.

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Layne Gneiting: and 4

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Layne Gneiting: leaves its imprint on the cultural matrix.

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Layne Gneiting: In other words, it’s valued by people in the field.

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Layne Gneiting: So if we look at those.

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Layne Gneiting: most of us are are

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Layne Gneiting: unable or unwilling to really deeply challenge our assumptions, because there are assumptions.

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Layne Gneiting: they’re so deeply embedded that we we don’t even dare challenge them

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Layne Gneiting: like

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Layne Gneiting: like is a podcast, good or not

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Layne Gneiting: well

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Layne Gneiting: like. Why would somebody even ask that? Of course they’re good.

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Layne Gneiting: And what we see in the secret life of Walter Mid to you

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Layne Gneiting: is that he started challenging many of the assumptions that he held, and departed

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Layne Gneiting: from his habitual practices, and that changed everything.

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Layne Gneiting: So does that.

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Layne Gneiting: Does that get it? An answer for you?

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Jennifer Glass: It does

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Jennifer Glass: so

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Jennifer Glass: let’s jump out. So we’re talking about the adventures

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Jennifer Glass: that Walter Many went through right. So we see he started in the movie where he

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Jennifer Glass: had the online dating situation

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Jennifer Glass: and he was waiting for the train he drunk that he went into the

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Jennifer Glass: Kristen Wake’s house and saved her dog. I think it was, and you know, when it blew up, or something on those lines. And this is all, of course, in his imagination, as the train goes by, and he’s still on hold with the guy from the dating service.

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Jennifer Glass: and I only know this because I didn’t. I saw it not that long ago. So it’s not like. I remember this from years. Yeah. Oh, i’m, I’m just dazzled at your memory. I’m going home, man. I forgot that part.

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Jennifer Glass: So all of these different things like you mentioned. And then when Shawn Penn sent to me.

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Look at this number.

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Jennifer Glass: and it was sent to him, and he’s looking all over the place trying to find where it was, and i’m not gonna say where, or if he ended up finding it, because I don’t want it to be a spoiler. But

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Jennifer Glass: if you’re going through all these different inventions.

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Jennifer Glass: It led him, like you said, to reframe what it was that he was doing.

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Jennifer Glass: and so what you have been doing, and i’m

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Jennifer Glass: se going now into your adventures through the 49 countries, through working with these other people that you’ve taken onto the different tours that you do. Let’s talk, though how that adventure starts helping them innovate

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Jennifer Glass: not only in their business but in their lives in

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Jennifer Glass: an issue that maybe they’re trying to grapple with. How does that start

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Layne Gneiting: coming together? Oh, that’s that’s a fantastic question, Jennifer.

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Layne Gneiting: So i’ll give you an example of the very first guy who joined me.

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Layne Gneiting: His name is Hal Holiday, super guy, executive chief people officer at the time.

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Layne Gneiting: and

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Layne Gneiting: Well, as part of this venture up in Norway. He wanted to go see some of his ancestral homes and meet some of his distant relatives.

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Layne Gneiting: I he’s my relative. I don’t know where he lives by chance. Do you know him?

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Layne Gneiting: But the experiences led into that. He went right up to them, and they said, Why, of course I do. I went to school with him. He lives right up there.

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Layne Gneiting: and then later, how brought his parents and his sister over to Norway, and they had a big

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Layne Gneiting: I’ve got other examples like Jordan. Jordan

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Layne Gneiting: I have been knocking out roadblocks in my life left and right ever since the track

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Layne Gneiting: like if we compare it’s like going from Point 5 up to 9, point 5

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Jennifer Glass: and that is really powerful

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Jennifer Glass: let’s say, before I was taking it. I was getting foggy. Now that i’m on it I can see clear again. I have more cognitive function things along those lines, and that’s kind of the idea that these trips are allowing people to do that. You can go

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Jennifer Glass: so everyone is in the same boat, and it doesn’t matter if you’re a CEO or the janitor at the time everyone is equal on the trip, and so everyone is gaining the same clarity. It’s just how are you internalizing

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Layne Gneiting: there’s sure, sure, absolutely.

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Layne Gneiting: So i’ll i’ll address each one of those

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Layne Gneiting: They’ve. They’ve got their 5 different training tiers that they meet during the 3 to 4 months leading up to the adventure.

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Layne Gneiting: They’ve got to be able to cycle 75 miles at a single ride.

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Layne Gneiting: Now most people can’t do that

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Layne Gneiting: they start out going a mile, and that’s okay.

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Layne Gneiting: But by the time we go they have gone 75 miles. In a single ride.

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Layne Gneiting: Second, they climb. They have the elevation game of 3,200 feet.

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Layne Gneiting: or they go out on a ride, and they photograph. They journal it’s not about hammering it out and getting it done.

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Layne Gneiting: so that you’re noticing.

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Layne Gneiting: you’re aware of the flowers that you never saw before. You start paying attention to patterns

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Layne Gneiting: We do haul all of our own gear. We don’t have a support vehicle we can’t tap out when when we want to bail.

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Layne Gneiting: and that is by design, so that we start

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Layne Gneiting: What are the resources I have available?

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Layne Gneiting: What is the problem.

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Layne Gneiting: How can I use the resources to address the problem.

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Layne Gneiting: the part of my identity that has been blocking people from helping me.

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Layne Gneiting: i’m sorry I kind of went into the the journey part, but the in that first part

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Layne Gneiting: and and apologize to say, you know I can’t stay. I’m really sorry i’ll come back and pick him up.

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Layne Gneiting: when we do the preparation.

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Layne Gneiting: Then, when we go on the journey, it’s 7 to 10 days in some foreign land

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Layne Gneiting: but the open road becomes our home.

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Layne Gneiting: you know, Jennifer.

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Layne Gneiting: I know you’ve got this plan to go that route.

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Layne Gneiting: There’s this other route with the most spectacular view. Nobody ever goes there. You need to go there

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Layne Gneiting: we go, great done.

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Layne Gneiting: and we make the detour our path.

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Layne Gneiting: and we make the open road our home

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Layne Gneiting: completely during those times.

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Layne Gneiting: The third phase, I think is the most critical, Jennifer.

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Layne Gneiting: and that is when we get back.

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Layne Gneiting: People are operating with us according to our earlier version of us.

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Layne Gneiting: and they try to pull us. They suck us like a tractor beam in Star Wars, you know a gravitational pull sucking us back into our old skin.

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Jennifer Glass: But is there anything that we can learn that can at least say

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Jennifer Glass: Wait One of the things that I

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Jennifer Glass: so all of my coaching clients is you cannot grow.

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Jennifer Glass: You cannot change if you’re not willing to get out of your comfort zone.

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Jennifer Glass: And so one of the things that we’re all stuck in is, we don’t want to do things because it’s uncomfortable.

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Jennifer Glass: But once we do get past that change.

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Jennifer Glass: Debbie Downers, if you will, that are going to be pulling us down, pulling us back.

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Layne Gneiting: Yeah, good.

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Layne Gneiting: So I love that you coach them on that way. Thanks, Jennifer for doing that.

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Layne Gneiting: One of the key ways that we do it is.

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Layne Gneiting: Tell the story.

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Layne Gneiting: you say. Look.

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Layne Gneiting: I had this incredible experience.

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Layne Gneiting: and I’ve changed in these ways.

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Layne Gneiting: and i’m asking you

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Layne Gneiting: to please

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Layne Gneiting: come with me on my ongoing evolution of growth going forward

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Layne Gneiting: and help me sustain the change.

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Layne Gneiting: Now they become enrolled in the process, and they’re they’re wanting to help you move forward with this change, because they now

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Layne Gneiting: they acknowledge it.

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Layne Gneiting: They recognize that you’ve declared it.

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Layne Gneiting: and they realize that

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Layne Gneiting: yeah.

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Layne Gneiting: if they run counter to your wishes

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Layne Gneiting: that they’re a schmuck.

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Layne Gneiting: So so that’s the biggest thing is. Tell the story as often into the people who matter most to you as you can

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Layne Gneiting: tell the story.

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Jennifer Glass: Thank you. So if we are looking at what it is that we’re trying to do, and we’re saying we can go this direction, and we can figure out these different pieces.

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Jennifer Glass: We know that we’re trying to share with them

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Jennifer Glass: the benefits, the advantages, the values that we’ve gotten to where we’re trying to be.

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Jennifer Glass: But

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Jennifer Glass: as we’re looking, then at shifting, we’re looking at making these continued changes.

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Jennifer Glass: Do we look also outward to find new people to be connecting with

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Jennifer Glass: that we’re continuing that growth.

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Jennifer Glass: Are we limited still.

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Jennifer Glass: or

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Jennifer Glass: or the people that

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Jennifer Glass: you’ve

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Jennifer Glass: been working? Do you find that they are like.

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Jennifer Glass: There’s I guess, the brotherhood, the sisterhood that goes there, and you become lifelong friends, presumably, you know, because again you’ve done this.

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Jennifer Glass: but from the people and one of the things they say is, Surround yourself with 5 people or 10 people that pull you up.

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Jennifer Glass: Do you find these people are really looking for more people out there. Are they staying with their original circle of friends where there could be some of that backslining.

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Layne Gneiting: Yeah, I’ve seen all the things I’ve seen some backsliding, but I’ve also seen exactly your point

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Layne Gneiting: that they

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Layne Gneiting: they now expand their circle.

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Layne Gneiting: and they let go of people who no longer serve them.

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Layne Gneiting: And the if you look at the literature that one.

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Layne Gneiting: the name for the archetype is the destroyer.

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Layne Gneiting: which I I think it’s the best archetype out there.

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Layne Gneiting: The destroyer

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Layne Gneiting: cuts off the things that

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Layne Gneiting: no longer serve you.

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Layne Gneiting: ideas, mental roadmap.

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Layne Gneiting: and people.

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Layne Gneiting: And I think

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Layne Gneiting: one of the reasons why people came back and get to their garage is because they realized these things that I’ve acquired no longer serve.

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Layne Gneiting: And

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Layne Gneiting: yeah, we’ve seen that again and again that people come back, and they either cut ties with their job.

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Layne Gneiting: They cut ties with people that

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Layne Gneiting: are bringing them down the Debbie Downers.

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Layne Gneiting: and and they move forward

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Jennifer Glass: So Layne. As we

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Jennifer Glass: move forward from here.

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Jennifer Glass: There’s so many different ideas that one can possibly be taking about

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Jennifer Glass: the adventure that we take, and it being

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Jennifer Glass: a way to overcome those hurdles, those roadblocks that are in the white.

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Jennifer Glass: And if we’re looking at it as

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Jennifer Glass: business people that may not be in a position to do

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Jennifer Glass: Really, major things.

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Layne Gneiting: we can still take small steps

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Jennifer Glass: to still get out of our way right? I just want to make sure it’s not like you gotta go on this cycling trip, or else you’re not going to get there.

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Jennifer Glass: So

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Jennifer Glass: are there some things that we can do? I mean, is it just starting with that mindfulness like you said, being present, looking at the flowers that you may not have seen before on the side of the road.

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Jennifer Glass: Things like that start allowing us to start shifting our mindset

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Layne Gneiting: so great question. And I think it depends upon how quickly you want to accelerate the process.

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Layne Gneiting: So absolutely. One of the things that I recommend is

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Layne Gneiting: you have. Most of us have our route to work.

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Layne Gneiting: you know, or our route to the grocery store.

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Layne Gneiting: Take a different route.

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Layne Gneiting: Who cares if it’s longer?

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Layne Gneiting: Who cares if it’s going to take you more time

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Layne Gneiting: as we get out of the ruts that we’ve

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Layne Gneiting: carved into our lives.

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Layne Gneiting: Our eyes start to open up, and our mind opens up.

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Layne Gneiting: A lot of the experts talk about reading literature that is completely out of your wheelhouse.

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Layne Gneiting: You know most of us tend to read the books that we that support our our decisions and conclusions, and build upon the skills and talents we already possess.

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Layne Gneiting: Go, do something wildly different.

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Layne Gneiting: If you’re studying science, Go.

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Layne Gneiting: go, take a an improv comedy class.

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Layne Gneiting: You are going to make connections

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Layne Gneiting: that nobody else could. You’ll be able to innovate in ways that nobody else could, because they don’t

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Layne Gneiting: have the experience and the vision

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Layne Gneiting: of connecting those the way you do

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Layne Gneiting: so definitely, and it it comes to, You know, all sorts of habits

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Layne Gneiting: that we have, whether it’s the things that we consume

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Layne Gneiting: through video media, podcast

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Layne Gneiting: books.

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Layne Gneiting: but also

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Layne Gneiting: where we go and how we choose to go there.

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Layne Gneiting: but

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Layne Gneiting: also with the accelerated version, Jennifer

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and it

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Layne Gneiting: obviously I would love for people to come Join me on a bike track. I think it’s the magic.

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Layne Gneiting: the magic pill that that moves you from

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Layne Gneiting: from a to Z.

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Layne Gneiting: But we can also look at the patterns throughout time.

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Layne Gneiting: like

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Layne Gneiting: from time in memorial. You look at the indigenous peoples, and they had some sort of a

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coming of age, journey

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Layne Gneiting: or a pilgrimage of some type.

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Layne Gneiting: and those get us out of the world that we know and control and get really cushy and comfortable in.

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Layne Gneiting: and it it forces us

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Layne Gneiting: to deal with the world on its terms instead of our terms.

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Layne Gneiting: Anything that does that is going to help

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Layne Gneiting: hiking the Appalachian trail, doing the the Camido day, Santiago to compost. I in Spain.

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Layne Gneiting: you know, a any of those are going to

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Layne Gneiting: require.

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Layne Gneiting: and I can get we. We could really have some fun with this.

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Layne Gneiting: but they require you to deal with nature

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Layne Gneiting: in a way that you can’t control

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Layne Gneiting: and to interact with new people

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Layne Gneiting: that you don’t already have

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pretty existing stories about

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Jennifer Glass: absolutely and, like you said to interact with Nature in a different way.

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If it means that you’re not used to being outside

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Jennifer Glass: in the woods.

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Jennifer Glass: find the words where you can go.

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Jennifer Glass: And again it’s all about getting out of your comfort zone to change. You cannot change if you’re where you are, that you’re comfortable.

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Jennifer Glass: So let me ask you. Tell me more about your book, the 8 habits that choke innovation.

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Layne Gneiting: Sure.

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Layne Gneiting: sure. So this was something that I came up with to help people unlock those habits and their

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Layne Gneiting: it’s an ebook. I also have the printed version, but you can get it online.

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Just download it, and

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Layne Gneiting: it’s quick.

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Layne Gneiting: Just quick. 7 habits, and I’ll I’ll go through each one here.

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Layne Gneiting: but the first one is we create buzz

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Layne Gneiting: versus substance.

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Layne Gneiting: We talk about innovation as though we know what it is instead of actually defining it.

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Layne Gneiting: And until we define it.

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Layne Gneiting: we then it’s elusive. It’s it’s slippery. And we’re talking about the innovation as though it’s.

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Layne Gneiting: you know, improvement, improvement isn’t, necessarily

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Layne Gneiting: innovation.

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Layne Gneiting: Second, one is we stagnate.

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Layne Gneiting: You know to the point that you said we stay in our comfort zones, and

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Layne Gneiting: we just stay in the same pool, and we don’t realize that we’re stinking it up because we’re used to it.

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Layne Gneiting: A third is sacred cows.

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Layne Gneiting: There are some things that we just won’t touch.

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and I’ve got a great story in there that illustrates

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Layne Gneiting: how, once we get rid of our sacred cows, all kinds of ideas can emerge.

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Layne Gneiting: The fourth is this idea that there’s some mystical idea of perfection.

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Layne Gneiting: You know we’re taught that from our educational system do you have the right answer

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Layne Gneiting: versus the wrong answer.

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Layne Gneiting: Instead of looking for a multitude of possibilities

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Layne Gneiting: that a lot of times again to this idea that you, you so beautifully hopped on

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Layne Gneiting: about nature.

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Layne Gneiting: We we live in a world of counterfeits.

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Layne Gneiting: Nature, according to Da Vinci, late Leonardo da Vinci.

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Layne Gneiting: That is.

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Layne Gneiting: that is the greatest innovator.

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Layne Gneiting: And if we go to Nature

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Layne Gneiting: to see how nature solves the problems.

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Layne Gneiting: Whoa! All kinds of ideas

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Layne Gneiting: come up like Velcro and Sonar, and submarines, and surgical super glue, that if that came from looking at slug slime.

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Layne Gneiting: the language that we use

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Layne Gneiting: is in that

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Layne Gneiting: we call problems problems instead of calling them adventures or games.

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Layne Gneiting: And

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Layne Gneiting: the last 2

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Layne Gneiting: there’s one habit. Number 7 is we inbreed

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Layne Gneiting: our ideas.

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it

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Layne Gneiting: again it goes back to the idea of. If you’re a scientist, go take improv comedy.

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Layne Gneiting: go into something wildly foreign to the way you’ve been taught.

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Layne Gneiting: and

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Layne Gneiting: and then the last one

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Layne Gneiting: is

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Layne Gneiting: figuring out how to both diverge wildly, diverge.

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Layne Gneiting: you know, going going crazy new directions.

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Layne Gneiting: and then setting the criteria about converging the ideas, so that we easily slice away the things that don’t matter.

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Jennifer Glass: and it sounds like everything in this book would definitely be a great tool

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Jennifer Glass: for many entrepreneurs and people that are trying to just figure certain things out

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Jennifer Glass: to take a look at, because

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Jennifer Glass: there’s bound to be at least one of those topics

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Jennifer Glass: that are probably there, like you said, calling a problem a problem instead of an adventure or a game.

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Jennifer Glass: we’re saying it’s simply something that needs a

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Jennifer Glass: answer, an answer, or a solution

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Jennifer Glass: instead of just a problem.

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Jennifer Glass: So there’s definitely ways to reframe the equation

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Jennifer Glass: in terms of what do we need to do.

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Jennifer Glass: And so Layne, how does someone go about getting that book?

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Layne Gneiting: Sure

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Layne Gneiting: you can go to go way of the hero.com.

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Layne Gneiting: And right there you can download it. It’ll be sent right to your inbox and easy, Peasy.

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Jennifer Glass: Thank you.

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Jennifer Glass: So, Layne, let me ask you. And this is what I really love. I know that you’re a man of many stories

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Jennifer Glass: like you said in your introduction.

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Jennifer Glass: But tell me more, though if you were to look out in your story.

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Jennifer Glass: and not the past, but in the future.

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Jennifer Glass: let’s say the next 3 to 5 years. Where do you hope to be?

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Layne Gneiting: We got some really exciting things on the future.

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Layne Gneiting: In 3 years we are going to be running at my friend and I a series of 12

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Layne Gneiting: tracks.

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Layne Gneiting: They go from below Italy all the way up to the top of Norway.

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Layne Gneiting: and we’re taking integrative teams

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Layne Gneiting: each week

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Layne Gneiting: to give them this kind of experience.

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Layne Gneiting: And then after that for the 2 years after that

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Layne Gneiting: i’m running a series that go across Central Asia between Beijing China and Istanbul Turkey.

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Layne Gneiting: And

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Layne Gneiting: if I keep, do you mind if I expand on that just a little bit, Jennifer. Absolutely

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Layne Gneiting: so. The the biggest reason I do this is to heal

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Layne Gneiting: individuals and nations.

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Layne Gneiting: I was

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Layne Gneiting: a part of a fantastic study abroad as the support faculty member over in the Balkans.

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Layne Gneiting: Now this is Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia.

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Layne Gneiting: and you may recall some of us recall that back in the nineties there was conflict over there

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Layne Gneiting: similar to what’s happening between Ukraine and Russia. Right now.

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Layne Gneiting: Well.

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Layne Gneiting: through this study abroad

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Layne Gneiting: the professor designed a really fascinating experience.

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Layne Gneiting: where we spent

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Layne Gneiting: about a week in one country, Croatia

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Layne Gneiting: got to hear about the conflict from their eyes and their voice.

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Layne Gneiting: and then, as we cross the border into Bosnia, she said.

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Layne Gneiting: All right. I want you to forget everything you just heard.

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Layne Gneiting: and just hear it from their perspective now.

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Layne Gneiting: So we did.

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Layne Gneiting: and we heard about atrocities the kind that you hear about the holocaust

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Layne Gneiting: like it just.

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Layne Gneiting: I had never felt such abhorrence in my whole life

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Layne Gneiting: as when I was there

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Layne Gneiting: and heard the stories.

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Layne Gneiting: And so then

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Layne Gneiting: we after a week there we’re going into Serbia.

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Layne Gneiting: And

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Layne Gneiting: the professor said, okay, guys

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Layne Gneiting: forget everything you just heard.

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Layne Gneiting: You gotta go in and hear it from their side now.

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Layne Gneiting: and we threw our arms up. We’re like, Excuse me, how in the world can we go in there knowing that these atrocities were committed? She goes.

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Layne Gneiting: You’ve got to understand their story, their identity.

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Layne Gneiting: Otherwise you’re not going to get it.

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Layne Gneiting: And what I understood from that are 2 things, Jennifer.

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Layne Gneiting: that I embed in my course in my program.

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Layne Gneiting: One is that

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Layne Gneiting: our identities and our mental maps, all the stories that we’ve dragged up from the past.

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Layne Gneiting: They are the very things that brought block our progress.

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Layne Gneiting: and there’s still conflict over there.

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Layne Gneiting: and they’ve said, we know that we’re going to have another war. We know that because nobody has apologized.

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Layne Gneiting: Everybody.

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Layne Gneiting: you know in my experience in those countries

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Layne Gneiting: everyone set themselves up as the victim

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Layne Gneiting: they were.

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Layne Gneiting: They were the ones

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Layne Gneiting: who

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Layne Gneiting: they weren’t necessarily in the right or the wrong, but they were the victims of somebody else’s perpetration

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Layne Gneiting: every single one.

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Layne Gneiting: When people come

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Layne Gneiting: on these experiences.

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Layne Gneiting: like, for example, we went through Greece and Albania last year.

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Layne Gneiting: and Albania here in the United States doesn’t have the height, the best rep.

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Layne Gneiting: And there’s this idea that oh, you gotta watch out for them. They’re a bunch of

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Layne Gneiting: drug, pushing guys and their terrorists.

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Layne Gneiting: and we had the most incredible experiences there where people opened up their homes, they opened up their lives to us.

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Layne Gneiting: and so

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Layne Gneiting: when people go on experiences like this.

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Layne Gneiting: they realize that the stories they’ve been told about these other people

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Layne Gneiting: are wrong.

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Layne Gneiting: and

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Layne Gneiting: the stories we’ve told that ourselves about who we are in relation to. Those people

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Layne Gneiting: are wrong.

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Layne Gneiting: So in the next 3 to 5 years I am going to have government officials join me.

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Layne Gneiting: and from various countries and parts of countries in the world where we’ll go to some place new.

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Layne Gneiting: they will experience it in a way that

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Layne Gneiting: is stripped

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Layne Gneiting: of all the baggage.

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Layne Gneiting: and they’re gonna come back and then

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Layne Gneiting: and then interact with those countries on a totally new level.

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Jennifer Glass: Well.

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Jennifer Glass: well, so I can say it’s incredible when you think about what it is that

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Jennifer Glass: the power

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Jennifer Glass: that that can hold to be hearing

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Jennifer Glass: from multiple signs

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Jennifer Glass: I mean one really big one is also, if you look at the

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Jennifer Glass: Israeli Palestinian Conference.

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Jennifer Glass: both sides have a similar concern.

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Jennifer Glass: Right? This side is V. You know, terrorizing us. That side is terrorizing us, and it’s just dependent on who you speak with.

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Jennifer Glass: Many years ago I had the opportunity to sit down with the president of a month.

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Jennifer Glass: and the 2 of us were having coffee, and

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Jennifer Glass: you know, Layne, as we’ve been speaking privately, that I have ideas of running for office, and so we were having a coffee, and we were speaking, and we got into the conversation of the Israeli Palestinian call.

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Jennifer Glass: and of course we both have our own dug insides, and I mean we can both see to an extent the other side. But we’re not going to necessarily be swayed by either’s argument

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Jennifer Glass: over what it was. But we said, the living here in the United States we have many more common issues that we need to be looking at, and that’s where you start finding that common ground to be in a position that you can say right, I can do this. I can do that, and we can all live together.

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Jennifer Glass: and you are saying you want to bring nations and people together, and I’m looking at doing the same through my business as well as politics, helping our communities and our nations get stronger. So there’s a lot of that in terms of what it is that we’re trying to do, and how we can really make all of that happen.

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Jennifer Glass: So, Layne, let me ask you, though, for people that have been listening over the last

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Jennifer Glass: 40 some minutes of our conversation.

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Jennifer Glass: They’re really excited and interested in getting in touch. How do they find it?

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Layne Gneiting: Oh, I would love to have a conversation with them.

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Layne Gneiting: They can email me [email protected].

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Layne Gneiting: and

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Layne Gneiting: they are free to reach out anytime by phone doesn’t, pick up.

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Layne Gneiting: but I get texts and love it. My number is 4, 8, 0,

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Layne Gneiting: 208, 1, 4, 6, 0,

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Layne Gneiting: and my website is wayofthehero.com.

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Layne Gneiting: and I. I’d love to have conversations with people about their dreams, their aspirations, and how I could support them.

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Jennifer Glass: Thank you.

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Jennifer Glass: So

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Jennifer Glass: when you’re thinking about what it is that we’re doing there’s so many potential roadblocks and hurdles that are out there.

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Jennifer Glass: As Layne was saying, you want to make sure that you come up with different strategies, different ways that you can look around it. If you’re in a position to go on that cycling tour. Certainly reach out to late. See what you can do in terms of getting on one of LAN’s new programs.

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Jennifer Glass: You’ve heard about his trip from Italy all the way up to Norway.

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Jennifer Glass: and in from Beijing all the way out to Turkey. Many of these trips are designed on purpose to help you really get more of an idea of what you want to do where you want to go, and the kinds of opportunities that are going to allow you to reframe a lot of what you think.

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Jennifer Glass: and how you can start seeing the world differently.

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Jennifer Glass: It really is important to think about how you can be doing that, because that’s where you start seeing new opportunities, new growth, new comfort zones that you can move into and get out of the old ones, because now that you’re here, you no longer need the old

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Jennifer Glass: comfort if you will.

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Jennifer Glass: So, Layne, I want to thank you again for being my guest on the show today. I think that everyone got a tremendous amount of value

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Jennifer Glass: and ways that we can be thinking about how we move forward from here. So thank you again.

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Layne Gneiting: Thank you, Jennifer. It’s been a delight.

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Jennifer Glass: Thank you.

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Jennifer Glass: and on that note this has been another episode of MOJO: The Meaning of Life and Business, and until next time here’s to your success.